lots of drivers pit saying the car is faster, until they see the telemetry...
drive and measure....or wander
sure, there is joy in wandering, how much time do you have ( left ) .
” all you have to do is DECIDE what to do with the time YOU have left ... “ Gandalf Report this
You are right tomic60.... I think the pleasure is in the journey itself... But 2 days ago i reach MY goal.... I am done with my system this time... I cannot do better..... You dont quit heaven for a better place.... 😁😊😎 YES there is game changing controls device.... Especially with little science help..... |
By the way my last device is the most powerful ever created by me 3 days ago...
I will speak about in my thread...
I mention it here because i had the idea reading a japanese research paper in audio.... Pure science then... And i discover that no one speaking in the tread i was reading about imaging know "precisely" how to create it in a room...They were only arguing partial truths....
My device make me able to do it on the spot and i can explain why with acoustic science...
Cost: peanuts....
i am too flabbergasted for the moment to speak more.... I will wait few days...
I think i am done now with adding anything to my system or room....
The sound fill my room and even behind my head sometimes.... I never know before that a stereo system done right could did that....
Calling my device a "tweak" is insulting....
I called my device : "Helmholtz meeting the first frontwave"
the name describe it accurately....
This is GAME CHANGING....
I must thank audio2design for that, it is in my research on the net arguing with him about the "imaging" concept he dont understand that i stumble on this and i immediately seize in the article what was lacking in my own understanding and in audio2design own understanding much more than in mine... 😁
I created the device for veryfying the japanese research .... My device is NOT in the article paper....
I am in heaven now listening music for the first time in my life..... |
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if you don’t know where you are going, any signpost will get you there... This resemble a bad reasoning saying that if you dont know precisely where you are going you are lost before starting stay home.... Or why starting all road go to nowhere and anyway there is nothing to discover along the road.... How do we call this argument? |
What about Bandwagon Fallacies?
It happens. Especially with hifi’s.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum Very good post... But we must remember that the bandwagon is not a unique and only one bandwagon... There is the S.G. bandwagon for example or the springs bandwagon on one side, and on the other side the " sunday boy club skeptic and scientism bandwagon"... «All people saying that springs are right must be right i will try some...» This the first bandwagon.... «All these people saying that springs is non sense because of science and snake oil must be right i will never try some... »This is the second bandwagon... Mapping logical fallacies are very useful like mapping the signposts on a road... But on the road of thinking and experimenting, the signposts are not the road..... then i will add the more insidious fallacy: " the map is not the territory" This one was lacking in this excellent list otherwise... |
We’ll keep it sweet while doing so, eh? For sure i sense you are a sweet truthful soul... Myself i could be wrong in any of my cases, experiments or reports... You could also be wrong in your assessment of one of my case... Then speaking without denigrating is the only meaningful way... I am "nut", you are not... I need you and you need me, because life is boring if all events are previsibles or explainables on the spot.... By the way my goal in audio, without much money, was never to go on with the consumers herd or the engineering herd, but to give myself a good hi-fi experience at NO cost.... Mission accomplished.... I would have never succeeded going on with the general rule....Because audio is also like any field more complex than meet the eyes.... Enjoy your day.... And thanks.... |
I’m led by science and engineering and objective evidence and build my systems using those principles to create a sound I love.
You have a faith in "stones and crystals which we must link together in synergy with the ears/room/speakers acoustical field feed back." I am led by my listenings experiments , nothing else guide me except audible results... Buying nothing my audio system is top now for his price...I am very proud to think by myself and not being only a passive consumer nor being passively constricted by prejudices... I dont presume anything , i tried, and putting copper on shungite is not in any manual... I tried it because my ears said so... i succeeded...Call it placebo if your sleep would improve...When i was at school i never accepted what was in the manual only because it is there....I dont say that engineer must reinvent acoustic or plane flight... I juste say open mind make discoveries for themselves first and sometimes for all.... Your own recognition of your overreaction and your choice of some time away is wise. I am a consicous being not a robot, then i recognized my mistakes....I go too far with your denegating not one but all time postings with mockery... But i go myself too far.... I apologize for this now after recognizing the fact.... My best to you.... |
Guess I’d better lie down with a few crystals on my head and paint my feet blue then. Why have you chosen the wrong alternatives not staying silent? We can reverse our own bad faith in an act of consciousness, i dont think idiocy is reversible in his contrary.... Myself i react too much to too much blind agressivity here and prejudices and become agressive myself.... I think i must take some days of leaves.... |
Please could those of you who trust your senses without question, who do not recognise your own confirmation biases, who don’t believe in measurement, who don’t respect the laws of physics, and who think they are immune from placebo effects, please tell me what else apart from audio you spend your money on? Whatever it is, I’m going into that business.
And please tell me you are not into tweaking your vehicle’s brakes, or designing medical devices, or aeroplane control systems, or nuclear power safety systems.
Please? Who are gullible? ME who paid 500 bucks for my audio system and tune it so good i trashed all my seven headphones, without buying ANYTHING, save few bucks materials, and created myself homemade my own embeddings device controls, for the mechanical, electrical and acoustical working dimensions of my system ? or YOU who spend your money in a costlier system without knowing how to make it great if you dont upgrade it, because you dont know some basic law of science and dont trust your ears? And you pretend like others in the "sunday skeptic boy club" to be scientists for sure... I am not a scientist but i can think and use my ears... By the way because idiot need more precision, all the systems, breaks, medical devices,planes, you mention have no relation whatsoever with listening and learning how to listen, changing parameters in audio gear or in the room, or in the electrical grid with controls devices or tweaks; Then the comparison you make with tweaking breaks, medical device, or planes, prove 2 things only, you are of bad faith totally or else you are an idiot.... Choose the lesser of the 2 evils.... |
In addition to AddPowr, reputable companies such as Furutech, Nordost, Acoustic Revive, Akiko Audio, Oyaide and I am sure numerous others are working on this basis and to call them all snake oil sellers is simply preposterous. Most of those who chase and see "snake oil" sellers and customers everywhere has never created for themselves a good audio system to begin with, if they had, they will know first hand that tuning a system rightfully is more powerful that upgrading it.... Ignoring basic fact about vibrations, electrical noise and acoustic, they accuse everybody who try to cure all disease plaguing all systems to be deluded by calling ANYTHING snake oil....Or worst placebo...Idiots in audio are easy to recognize.... For sure "tweaks" are way too costly for me, but i never bought them myself i replicate them simply when i could.... Result: hi fi experience for peanuts... «Acoustic law cannot be replaced by stupidity, save when idiots speak»-Groucho Marx |
I recommend to you projective geometry study...
A bit of number theory too, the congruence algebra will do...
And you will understand something about the non- metaphorical and the metaphorical depth of numbers...
I am pretty sure that you think that your chair is more real than the prime numbers for example.... But it is the reverse indeed.... It is not too late to learn and studying and then not harassing people unknown to you in the mean time....
By the way there is more than 3 embeddings, my choice was dictated solely by my experience, and simplicity in my way to explain to myself first what i was doing in my listenings experiments....
It is not practical nor wise to speak about too much at the same time, and for this 4th embeddings i have not work it with experiments.... It is a difficult dimension to work with anyway.... Then i will not speak about it and be welcomed by your sarcasms...
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If there is one idea that is important in my discovery of the 3 embeddings experimental listenings, perhaps the least known and totally misunderstood, is beside the PASSIVE room treatment with inert materials, is the ACTIVE room controls with connected different resonators grids and low cost modified Schuman Generators...
This was not a " tweak", the word is not innocuous at all and is suggestive of what some inexperienced people called "snake oil", and the word suggest also some inessential secondary artefact ....
BUT even a bunch of tweaks is NOT a method....
My method was the result of my experimental listenings , essential to adjust the many parameters of the room and the devices...These device cannot be adjusted by an electronic computer room analysis only....They are not passive materials to be put on some sensible nodes in the room, nodes precisely computed by a program...They are active devices modified by connection cable and stones and crystals which we must link together in synergy with the ears/room/speakers acoustical field feed back....
The ACTIVE room controls gives what most PASSIVE treatment cannot gives by itself alone, except perhaps a dedicated very costly acoustical audio chamber, a relative decoupling of the sound from the speakers and from the obstructive accidents of the room and from his topology and a compensating tool to freed the sound from the load impose by the room.... It was like if the sound now can live in his own dimension and not only in my room.....At low cost indeed....Anyway the mechanical embedding and the electrical embedding and the passive acoustical treatment are also mandatory BEFORE to have the optimal means for adjusting the acoustical parameters of the active acoutical embedding....
The results are so amazing that my modest system (speakers+dac+ amplifier total cost under 500 bucks) will put to shame many costly one not by being better but by being so near them at peanuts costs....You know when you are there when any upgrade while tempting seems ridiculous....
The ears and listening experiments are the only essential tools...And if there is no game changing tweak, there exist a game changing method....
If my post could be useful to one guy they are justified....I apologize for the others.... |
fleschler I go on the exactly same road, except i create my own improved hallographs ( i dont know the original one except by photo for sure then maybe not improved but that is great increase in S. Q. for me) ...Not bad for a few bucks....I even create my own emat omega tech. before knowing that this product even exist....The "golden plate".... Materials in the 2 are different probably but i put mine on the same locations with success before reading anything about omega tech.... And it works.... My idea are free, low cost and wait to be tried.... It is not attracting much people tough.... i dont know why? Perhaps too much low cost, not so esthetically attracting, and ask for creativity instead of money... Behind what look like some accidental "tweaks" there is a method of experimental listenings revealing to me the conjugate effects of the triple embeddings of any audio system, then it was easy to create some homemade devices to systematically controls and improve the s.q. coming from the lack of controls in these 3 dimensions.... :) Then there is NO game changing tweak, because NO tweak solve by itself all the defects in the 3 embeddings at the same time only by itself alone... There is a method of experimental listenings tough that clear the way for the embedding of any "generic" design components in the "specific" gear, room and house..... |
