Forever speakers around $5000


Hi Audiogon! Your help has been invaluable in the past so I’m back yet again. I think I’m close to purchasing my forever speakers and am looking for recommendations of what to consider. Here are some qualities I’m looking for, in order of importance:

  1. Amazing soundstage. I really enjoy a speaker that can throw a BIG soundstage.
  2. Fun, slightly U-shaped frequency response.
  3. Tight, punchy, musical bass.
  4. Airy and clear high end, think Magnepan.
  5. Good R&D and technology. If I’m paying this much for a speaker, it better not just be a damn box with some bargain paper cone drivers in it.
  6. Nice looking. This is a speaker, first and foremost, but it is also a piece of furniture. It really does have to look nice (I hate to say it, but this probably disqualifies offerings from GoldenEar).
  7. Semi-compact. I like a speaker that has a good physical presence in the room (not too small) but not something massive like a Magnepan (been there already) or Wilson. I like units no more than 45" x 10" x 16" or so. Also cant weight a million pounds as we are still in a rental and will have to move these.

I currently own a pair of LSA 2.1 Signature floorstanders, which have certain qualities I like (soundstage/imaging due to rear firing tweeter, size/weight, U-shaped). But things I feel are missing (bass feels a bit loose, build quality could be better, feels very low tech with paper woofers and unbraced MDF cabinet). I listen to a wide range of music, mostly a lot of intimate jazz combos, some experimental electronic and IDM, funk, some rock, black metal, and a bit of classical.

Here are some speakers I have heard and liked:

  1. Magnepan MMG - amazing detail, imaging, mids and highs
  2. LSA 2.1 - for all their shortcomings, they check a lot of boxes
  3. Dynaudio Focus 20 XD - awesome balance and great bass for a standmount
  4. B&W CM10 - I really like this speaker, though I’ve seen some measurements that have turned me off
Speakers I have heard and were disappointed in:

  1. KEF LS50 - honestly seemed very shrill and shouty to me
  2. Martin Logan ESL - weirdly didnt get a great impression of these
  3. GoldenEar Triton 3 - not only ugly, but I found these a bit boring to listen to
So, any ideas? I'm willing to consider new or used (if it can be found somewhat easily) speakers around $5000. I can give more info if you have questions, thanks!
primarist

Showing 1 response by dorkwad

A used pair of ATC SCM40 V2 speakers would be right up your alley. ATC speakers are used by many recording studios because of their sound qualities. I heard a pair about a year ago and was very impressed. If listening to some, make sure they are well away from the front wall as this affects the soundstage considerably. They are well built, the exact size you want and have very rugged drivers with the ability to expose all that is on the recording. They look nice, in an understated way. The V2 speakers go for just under $7000 new. Although the specs say they go down to 48 hz, they have tremendous, punchy bass and seem to go way lower when listening. The bass had no whomp or boom to it.  No need for a sub at all. Zero breakup in the sound at high levels.  The mid driver is one of the best in audio and the tweeter in the V2 is now very good also. Vocals were beautiful and complex passages never got messy.  Very dynamic speaker and the cabinet is heavy at about 75 lbs. for its 40" height. I own a pair of Vapor Audio Joule Black speakers which are awesome in all ways, but I wanted to hear the ATC 40’s. I think, if I was allowed to hear those speakers with MY amps, they would have produced even better sound. The farthest the speakers could be pulled out in the room (about 4-5 ft.), the better they sounded at the store. The wires they used were only long enough to go that far. I listened to many types of music that day and all who heard were impressed. Many of the employees came in to listen to them while I was there. It’s a big place with many rooms all over it.

Bob