What are you still doing here? Weren’t you told to gfys and Amir?
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@oddiofyl
I had pops and noises when switching digital sources. I removed the CAT 8 between Aurender and DAC , problem solved
How was your streamer connected to your dac using ethernet cable?
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just let it go @nonoise you will be annoying the ASR crowd and wasting your time. Looks like ASR site may have been down for maintenance or they all just took a wrong exit.
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@samgar2 I believe you had asked a question to get educated, take your system to the next level, explore and learn.
You have a variety of opinions here with some that are based on theories and some based on personal experience and objective listening within one’s system. I believe it’s easy to discern which is which. Don’t let anyone stun your learning process. This never got anyone anywhere.
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@soix this thread unfortunately had gone south…most likely can’t be salvaged.
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Great analogy @12many
Now add to that crumpled piece of paper a pound of peanut butter sprinkled with sand that was packed into that parcel thoroughly coating every mm of that paper
You will work harder and longer to clean it up to determine that it’s a piece of blank paper 8.5x11. Now your hands are dirty with all the crap you just dealt with to understand what you’re dealing with, you reach into a drawer to pull out a clean piece of paper but you marred it because your hands were dirty. You have a perfect 8.5x11 piece of paper except the remnants of peanut butter and sand. That’s noise that you worked long and hard to clean up but ended up with on a final product.
All digital signal, data packets, etc is nothing but a digital signal being carried thru a copper wire by means of an analog signal that is susceptible to emi, rfi and ground noise. Are you venmoing me a dollar? Will my bank see it as a dollar or $.99.9999 On a receiving end the data packets unfolded properly.
However we’re talking audio and digital to digital and digital to analog conversion that happens inside your audio components. In an ideal world it would have no effect on the final product, all DACs would sound identical and cables wouldn’t matter. Unfortunately in our world it does not work that way and everything matters
I have extensively tested several ethernet cables for several days of critical listening each. I eliminated the possibility for bias as after 1-2 days of listening you begin to hear the true character of the cable (or its effects on a component) without initial impressions getting in a way.
All cables I have tested sounded different. With one causing slight listening fatigue due to a slight hump in the presence region, another sounding hyper detailed which really worked out for me during low level listening, and another just being dead nuts neutral without emphasis on any particular band.
This is my experience in my system that I consider objective as I have spent considerable amount of time critically listening to each option and even reverting back to see if my results match.
The point I’m trying to make is the theories expressed in this and other discussions on this subject are simply what they are - theories and assumptions. Most if not all the contributors who angrily try to convince others that it cannot be because in theory it’s impossible, have never tried or tested it for themselves, don’t have the systems that can reveal these differences, don’t or can’t afford higher end cables or systems or just simply don’t have the ear to hear the changes between the cables.
It’s all good. But there’s no reason, especially without having any experience behind your belt, to tell me what I hear or don’t hear.
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@soix let us know your thoughts about wireworld starlight 8
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@fredrik222 can you list your components? Streamer, dac, amplification and speakers, interconnects, speaker cables?
How resolving of a system are you leveraging to test the cable related changes.
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@12many when your wife swaps the ethernet cables on the streamer make sure she power cycles the unit. Shut down (not standby). Swap, power it back on.
What streamer, dac and digital cable type are you using or plan on using?
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@fredrik222 well if you don’t or can’t hear it in that system, it’s fine.
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@antigrunge2 I’ve hinted at those issues few posts back. It doesn’t look like anything outside the scope of data packets is taken into consideration.
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@fredrik222 not at all what I said. It’s totally fine if you don’t hear it there. In other words I don’t fault you or your system.
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@fredrik222 I disagree and I already described why in a long post from the other day.
I even told you just now it’s fine that you can’t hear the difference. Hey there are people who can’t taste the difference between a two buck chuck and a good bottle of chateauneuf du pape. And I’m totally fine with this. You need to accept the fact that you may not hear what others hear and stop telling people they’re nuts.
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@fredrik222 Just curious why a $500 kimber digital AES/EBU cable when you can move 1s and 0s thru a $20 “professional “ “studio grade” cable just the same? Did you compare and notice an improvement with kimber orchid? Or is it just for the sake of completing the kimber cable loom.
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No good pizza joints in northern jersey. They all suck compared to what I’m used to living in Brooklyn for years. Eating jersey pizza is like listening to my system with a cheap yellow ethernet cable which I’d rather not. Lol
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@antigrunge2 bull 💩 it is!
as a side note…76 and sunny here in Jersey and looks like a perfect opportunity to take work outside, have a coffee and a nice cigar and just have a good laugh at all this ASR infiltration of a’gon
And that’s exactly what I’m planning on doing right after I hit that green button here
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@fredrik222 you can’t be helped. And I’m not even talking about ethernet cables here.
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Yup he represents ASR well.
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He’s one of Amir’s minions who was sent here on a special mission to stupify us all but failed miserably. He just couldn’t find his way back. Thanks for providing him the right coordinates @juanmanuelfangioii
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I’m signing out this is hopeless.
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Oh and I never called you any names. Not agreeing with your narrative and what you had “set to accomplish “ here doesn’t translate to name calling. You actually just don’t know what you don’t know and you’re not willing to accept that. Pretty simple.
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@samgar2 that’s right. So when are you trying an upgraded cable?
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@samgar2 Verizon Fios routers are crap. The range is extremely poor. I never tried their extenders but I can tell you based on your description of your current setup, something like Amazon EERO would be a game changer and not just for streaming.
I’m using the 3 EERO setup and have one EERO access point right by my system in the basement. The main router (Optimum) is upstairs with a gateway EERO wired to it. I get between 225-325mbps out of the basement EERO access point. That is more than enough.
There are other options like Google, tp-link, etc. Pick one.
Then you would only need 1-1.5m length ethernet cable for your stereo system which reduces your streaming ethernet cable cost and opens up better cable choices.
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@oddiofyl now the connection makes more sense. I doubt it was the ethernet cable.
Some DACs will pop. My bryston dac popped every time it was about to start playing DSD file.
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