Dynaudio C1 and voices


Picked up a pair of used C1s. Using a Mac 352 and Mac SS preamp. The room is mid sized. Speakers are about 7.5 feet apart, 46 inches from back walk and 54 inches from sides.

Very good sound staging and depth. OK detail, but voices are less than terrific. Is it that they are revealing and the voices are just poorly recorded? I do listen to a lot of live rock and jazz performances.

Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
dmm53

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Dmm53 Which C1's do you have? If the originals do they sound more to your liking when you turn them up?

As far as your seating position how much room is behind you. I sit right up against the back wall and find if lean forward about a foot or 2 the mids and highs are not as laid back sounding.
As a former owner of the original C1's and current owner of the C1 signatures there is a big difference between the 2. That being said the C1's are considered by a lot of folks who do think the C1's have a laid back sound (myself included). But I also believe the C1's have the best balance of lows - mids and highs. Now I had both the original C1 and the Sig's in my system. The difference is the originals sounded their best at high listening levels. The Sig's sound like the quality of the originals at high levels where the Sig's really shine at low to mid levels. In fact I personally thought the originals sounded 'nasally' at lower levels (but not nasally at high levels).

I'm not familiar with Nola's but I have auditioned the B&W 805 - 803d and 802d's. To me they were too much in the mids and especially in the highs. These are my opinions.
Stringreen
its not a good idea to have your back up against a wall
I know that. I am stuck with my room. I was also thinking more of dispersion instead dampening behind me. My chair his a high back lazy-boy so I do have ear level dampening LOL.

I was trying to point out the fact that being up against the back wall is not good and leaning forward sounds much better.

Dmm63 - Do your originals sound more to your liking when they are turned up in volume? That was my complaint when I had the originals because I listen at low to mid levels (70 -85db) 95% of the time.
Well this may sound stupid but when I had the original C1's I found they did sound a lot better with the grills off (the sound stage really opened up). The MKII/Sig is not as dramatic. So with the originals the grills only went on when the grandkids came over. With the sig's the grills rarely come off because the difference is minimal and the tweeters don't get dusty. Have you tried grills off and more toe-in?

Other than that maybe try some silver IC's or SC's. I currently run Nordost Tyr2 IC's and original Frey SC's.

Last were you able to audition the C1's before buying them? If so what source/amp was used?
Thought of 1 more thing. If you have fillable stands try filling them with some sand or shot. I have the stand4 and fill the rear leg only with sand. Gives a slightly more forward presentation.
D160 - The V110 sounds great. But honestly I'm not too fond of the KT120's. The KT120's seem very bright in the highs like the sparkle turned more to a sizzle. I put some vintage Mullard drivers and a Rca 5751 triple mica black plate in for the input and it seems to help. But that's my opinion. YMMV
D160 there is only 1 brand of KT120's. They are Tung Sol. So far the highs need the most taming. I sort of did that with a RCA 5751 triple mica black plate input tube and a pair of Mullard CV4024 driver/inverter tubes. Both the Rca and Mullard are very warm sounding with the Mullards being quite laid back in the highs. What I haven't tried yet is running the KT120's in 6550/KT88 mode.

What's funny I loved the KT120's for about 30 hrs when new. Then for the next 170hrs the mids became very forward and the highs somewhat harsh.