Downside to R2R Ladder DACs?


A sales person I generally trust told me to steer clear of used R2R DACs, since their reliance on high precision resistors causes them to sound best when new, and degrade fairly quickly. It seems reasonable; have others had any experience with this?
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Showing 2 responses by kijanki

Laser trimmed resistors on the same substrate tend to have similar tempco and aging.  While aging can change initial resistance it is very likely to do it in similar fashion (same material) to all resistors keeping division ratios pretty much the same.  In addition, the largest changes in any resistor are just right after production.  Older resistors change very little.   There is an assumption that non Delta-Sigma DACs are R2R - not necessarily so and many of them have self calibration mechanism. Mentioned Philips TDA1541 is R2R but only for the 10 highest bits while lower 6 bits are controlled by Dynamic Element Matching (DEM), based on emitter scaling 10-bit current divider.  It is possible to have resistor ladder, current scaling, voltage scaling and charge (on capacitor ladder) based DACs plus combination of them in multi-bit converter. 

Even if we forget technical reasoning - IMHO only insane company would design a chip that shows sound deterioration after 10, or even 20 years. 

George, this is very true - two power supply caps in parallel have smaller ESR, but they also have smaller inductance, often horrible for very large caps.  In addition few smaller caps instead of one large cap allows for better packaging (more efficient use of space).

Point made by hrabieh is very good - DAC is not only D/A converter but far more.  There are many DACs based on the same D/A chip that sound differently and have different reliability.