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Describe the "new HiFi sound"?
Recently had a discussion with an audio friend over the word "musical" and what this word means to each of us with regard to sound from different amplifiers and speakers. Some debate too. And, reading this other comment on Agon once in a while...how some equipment has the "new HiFi sound".
ASK:
Can someone describe this, in your words, what is the new HiFi Sound to you? Examples? Or, opposites of the new HiFi sound, what does this sound like?
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@pedroeb Generalize much? |
@kota1 You have my condolences 💐 BTW…you are missing the point! |
Well, first off, the post is inane and lacks specificity. There is only authentic believable sound. Some of that “sound” was made way before you were born. Great recordings can be done in various ways…the Technology does not a great sound make! This applies to playback as well…many variables involved. There is Sound and then there is Reproduced Sound. Atmos is a way to make cheaper systems sound more detailed and immersive which while enjoyable for movies, doesn’t really apply that well to conventional music playback. Most concerts are performed in a location in a 3D space with radiation patterns emanating from a more or less well defined location. Well designed 2Ch does it more authentically. If you want to hear the drunk guy taking a piss behind you in row 50…be my guest. |
@kota1 Aperion Audio SuperTweeters…not very expensive but add a bit of air, of course I’m running through transparent cable network to get rid of the grunge! |
Right, well the problem is that Atmos is based (started) primarily as a movie format. That makes sense…multichannel sound for special effects and cues. Problem is it involves mostly non audiophile equipment and or would be cost prohibitive if scaled up for most people. Ideally, it would add more of a sense of space around the sound if it were a live recording, but could only offer fake cues for studio recordings. Most of my music is from by gone days…certainly not current mainstream garbage. A properly set up stereo with a great recording can be immersive on its own…music designed for Atmos sounds like Frankenmusic! Strong Quadraphonic vibes I’m afraid. But again…midfi gear, so it’s a non starter. |
Ok this has gone off the rails. Kota is obviously the poster child for Atmos. I was just transported to the Village Vanguard where the John Coltrane Quartet was playing live…absolutely soul satisfying and realistic! The sound was wild, unrestrained and washed over me like a sonic tsunami of heavenly tones and dynamics. I grabbed a Guinness and just melted into my chair! My speaker cables cost more than an Atmos system because they can convey everything the artist intended through my system. Kota would loose his audio virginity if he heard my system…but that could make a mess, so probably not a good idea. |
I did try to be congenial, but your incessant cheerleading for something that gets you off is rude…because you are forcing the issue. It’s annoying and it’s obvious you never owned a truly great 2 channel system. That’s ok, but you also know very little about a lot of things audio. Most of the music I listen to has never been played at any audio show, much is unavailable in 2023 and all of it requires a bit more of the listener than most have to offer. Don’t even assume you know anything about me or my music…my vintage and proof is far above your pay grade. |
Audiophile goes to a concert and says it’s too loud and punchy, overly dynamic and way more bass than is natural. Music lover goes to the same concert and is totally immersed…later decides to get a great stereo system with JBL speakers to re create that experience.
Reality can be upsetting for some people;() |