Beware of NAD M3 Fire Hazard


My $3k NAD M3 started shooting sparks out the top and burned the shelf that was 8" above. Luckily I was home and not sleeping or the house would have burned down. If anyone has one of these I advise them to unplug it when not in use. I took it to two different repair shops and they said it would be about $800 to just get it running and there may be board issues. They advised not to take the gamble. Anyone have any suggestions on what to do with it?
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Showing 5 responses by oldhvymec

"The only likely cause for a power filter cap blowing like that is a power surge issue or a mechanical short. The only incident like that I have experienced in decades of commercial installations was when high voltage showed up between neutral and ground on an AC outlet. "

The power surge taking out the diode bridge and allowing AC into the capacitor..

Interesting...I owned a repair shop for 20 years or so way back, when 8086 8088 processors were everywhere.  There was a  3 phase transformer above the one that feed the shop. Everyone around the shop with PC, would loose power supplies, TVs up in smoke, Everything except the store. I had Topaz line conditioners in the shop..I mean top of the line at the time, FREE. got them out of a hospital closure.

They (across the street) had a thing called a Delta stinger, a Large welding / fab shop. One leg was 208-220, I think.  The other two were 110, 220 between the two 110-117 . It was so they (not me) had 480 for their welding shop.They had a transformer in the facility also. 
I'm kinda close on the description. That big transformer shared a common leg, up on the pole I don't recall just how. BUT at night I saw a little light show between the two. I called PGE. they ran a tape on both sides of the Topaz units. Before unit and after. 135-165 VAC spikes whenever they were welding with certain rigs, across the street.  The Topaz units worked perfect. No brownouts no, Overages.  PG&E paid for anyone that had complained. Something to do with that delta stinger setup, the PG&E guys said.. At my house back then, hovered at 105 then spike at night. All fixed now, but dirty AC all kinds of problems, ay..

Regards
WOW, I thought I had a bad one. Man oh man, it looks like the cap next to it was starting to swell also, I can't see the tops very well. I had a Wyred 4 Sound, 1000 (no R) bought used, blew a cap on one MB. 
The guy was running them on a single, 15 amp outlet. I suspect that caused the problem.  BIG BASS HEAD...I find out after the fact...

That would be a nightmare to clean propper, much less fix and not worry about it.. Sorry your traumatized buddy. That amp will leave you with nightmares. I just had valve amps kick a 20 amp breaker and fry. Must be an electrical virus. LOL it's not funny, I'm walking around swearing, with you for SURE.. Mine was self inflicted, yours..Geez ma neez..
Time for a change.. But NAD!! They have a good product. 

Respectfully and with regard

millercarbon
3,411 posts
03-16-2020 11:09am
The more time passes the more the first two posts are looking better and better.

Man oh man your just awnry, millercarbon.. It's almost funny but I stop shy of my amps fraggin' the joint. Look like a # 9 went off in there. Self destruct button.. That was bad...

Regards

heaudio123
109 posts
03-16-2020 6:18am
"If they don’t I would post it here for the world to know."

Shaking down a supplier for a 10+ year old+ electronic product, with a history you don't know (not the first owner), that could have experienced surge events, or other events outside the suppliers control, is not cool.

Well the question is, WHY? No matter the answer, shy of "I dropped a penny in the slot, and tried to recover it with a screwdriver and up she went".  That type of failure in that picture is a BIG problem, that was and is unsafe.
Product failure is part of most electronics. Somewhere along the way they usually quit working. EXPLODING is not normal, simple.  I bet they'll want to see it and figure why. I would hope so.. Burning down the house, THAT'S NOT COOL. It should have failed SAFE..RIGHT?? It gets in our homes because it's safe, not UNSAFE.. That's not my opinion, it's the LAW...Yup I get pretty passionate about house fires, neighbors house had a fire  behind a non grounded wall clock power cord, in a finished basement. The electrical was in conduit and grounded propper, if it wasn't for the dogs, the whole house would have went up..
Wall clock???yup breaker didn't pop and the cord caught fire. Out of their home for a YEAR... 

I just glad everyone's ok, where your at..I just went through a 20 amp breaker pop. Trust me it was an expensive POP..

Regards
 As far as the voltage I am just guessing it is 110. I thought everyone is either 110 or 220. 
  
Well mine stays a 117 via variac for the older stuff, (I use seldom anymore) or 120 for all the new stuff on the button. Maintaining 120 VAC is VERY important, brownouts use to be the number one killer of PS in this area (Bay Area). They would hoover at 105, till night time came then they would spike. New 20KV line upgrade from 8KV, night and day.. I hadn't lost a piece of gear in YEARS (35) till just the other day, bone head move on my part..Couldn't STOP the burning because of the conditioners, never happened before..

The little Wyred4Sound SX1000 (I think) when it popped a cap, nothing like this guys for sure.. I still have it, I was gonna swap the ICE board..
PE had them in stock..


Regards