Audiophile Priorities and Recent Topics


I'm increasingly fascinated by the number of threads that have been created lately by OP's who have joined over only the last 2 months with less than 30 posts that all seem related to the importance of wires and tweaks. While I'm not dismissing the notion that everything matters in hifi (including digital cable), it seems that these topics vastly overwhelm thread topics that clearly would have more influence to hifi audio sound such as discussions of the sonic characteristics of various amplifier topologies, the importance of simplifying the signal path, and identifying fantastic speaker/amplifier synergies, etc...

If some unsuspecting newbie were to stumble onto this forum they would likely come away thinking that a fuse or a piece of wire are the most important elements towards obtaining wonderful hifi sound. This is unfortunate. For example, my discovery of listening to a SET circuit years ago paired with speakers possessing a high and flat impedance greatly outshines any joy derived from identifying the finest digital cable produced by man. I'm simply questioning the hifi priorities that this forum seems to be obsessed with lately.

Is it just me?
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Showing 13 responses by millercarbon

I really don't mean to sound disrespectful but your mind is easily boggled.
Right. And if dogmatic would knock it off I would appreciate it. Until then, apply two fist fulls liberally to the butt hurt area.
I've watched movies off laptops for years. Got a couple different USB, Lightning or whatever you call em to RCA adaptors. 
Dana you should bring one of your cheapo PC over to compare with some of my old ones. Probably not that far apart on price but a lot better on performance I bet. If nothing else it will be useful to demonstrate the irrelevance of gauge. Amps has nothing to do with it. Both the ones you heard demo'd were the same gauge, the same amp rating, the same everything. Just not the same sound. Even the connectors cannot be judged that way. The ones you heard, the builder tried much more expensive connectors and didn't use them. They look real nice, they sure seem superior on paper. Only problem, they don't sound as good.  

This is the crux of the whole thing. More or less a total waste of time to talk about "tweaks" as the word can mean anything. Leads to colossally wrong conclusions.  

The biggest difference I can see so far is when people who know tweaks work, when they talk about tweaks they mean the ones that work. When someone wants to disparage tweaks or diminish their value they talk about obvious total garbage.    

Harley said "many" tweaks are garbage- and then gave as an example a few tweaks that are total garbage. There really is no argument or dispute here. The question is what about the ones that are not only not garbage, but that work and work well?   

A little apples to apples honesty will go a long ways here. 
So the thread was created to foster a discussion of what are your highest priorities and what role (and relative importance) do areas like cables, footers, and fuses have in your system?

Coulda fooled me. The actual OP:
these topics vastly overwhelm thread topics that clearly would have more influence to hifi audio sound such as discussions of the sonic characteristics of various amplifier topologies, the importance of simplifying the signal path, and identifying fantastic speaker/amplifier synergies, etc...

Whatever.

I just know my experience and I’d like to hear others. Our collective accounts could be really helpful to others.

They are. Tons of people talking about how great their stuff sounds on Nobsound springs, or on Pods, or Podiums. QSA fuses, Stones, all kinds of things. You should try reading them.

Oh, but wait- aren’t those are the ones you started out complaining about, the ones that "overwhelm" the site?

Whatever.
Probably because mahgister was driven off by the usual pack of bullies. The whole subject of the OP is to attack tweaks. Mahgister is (was?) our #1 user of tweaks. His whole approach stated repeatedly is once you have pretty good components your best approach is to tweak to get the most from them. The OP is the opposite. It is a total attack on mahgister. Even after you guys bully him off the site even that is not enough, you have to trash his legacy. Disgraceful.
Interesting the people known for not trying tweaks don't seem able to even so much as entertain the possibility that people are talking about tweaks because they actually work. 

Another thing I find interesting, they don't seem to care too much for the fact they are attacking one of the nicest kindest most generous members on the site. Not only is he unbelievably kind and gracious even when mercilessly attacked, but he is clearly deeply in love with his music, a subject on which he frequently waxes poetic. Finally of course it is clear the guy has little money and goes out of his way to stretch every dollar to the max. Yet here we are with a thread seemingly devoted to trashing mahgister.

Have you no sense of shame?
The thread was serious. This much would be readily apparent to any sentient reader. What it said basically was many, many threads have been ruined by the same small group who have nothing to contribute to the topic. Instead they blather and banter back and forth, the same old same old. Anyone can see it happen over and over again.   

Sometimes readers even point it out and ask them to please move along. New people coming across the site get the impression that is what it is all about- pure incessant nonstop blather. I even had to point out to one of them recently that if they hang around and learn which ones to filter out there is a lot to be learned here. Just not from the ones who post back and forth all day pretending anyone cares.  

That's the long answer. The short one is: What part of "rent free" do you not understand?
I see someone felt so incredibly threatened by a discussion they had it removed. Rent free.