$75 Thorens vs. $2K+ Michell...is this possible?


Hi all,

I've had my first turntable ever (a Michell Tecnodec purchased used with a Benz Glider medium ouput purchased new) for a couple of months now, and although it has sounded good at times and sometimes even great, overall it hasn't been what I've expected based upon the reputation that vinyl has over digital. Sometimes my table sounds smothered or rolled off in the highs, and sometimes I hear what I can best describe as noise/static/distortion on vocals when they get loud. Things have gotten a bit better with what I assume is break-in of the cartridge and some minor tweaking of VTA.

Yesterday, I purchased a well used Thorens TD 160 with an Audio Technica AT125LC. The cartridge is riding so low (I assume from use) that at times the body rubs on the record surface. I haven't had the time to do extensive direct comparisons, but the essence of what I expected from vinyl is here with the Thorens. An overall smooth, natural coherence that is emminently enjoyable to listen to. Natural, airy highs. Solid, but not overdone firm bass.

Again, I have not done direct comparisons, but I don't hear any of the downsided I heard with my Michell. There may not be quite the detail or soundstage width, but I feel like it's an overall more enjoyable listening experience.

I'd love input from the more experienced here to help me understand what's happening here.

Thanks much,
Paul
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Showing 1 response by dougdeacon

As others have pointed out, you're comparing apples and oranges. Unless you put the same cartridge on each rig you'll have no idea what the inherent qualities of the two rigs actually are.

Sometimes my table sounds smothered or rolled off in the highs,
And probably always will with a Glider on it. Smoothed, gentled, laid back, rolled off highs. Sounds like every Glider I've heard, on any rig.

...and sometimes I hear what I can best describe as noise/static/distortion on vocals when they get loud.
STOP playing those records until you solve this problem. If your stylus is mistracking your vinyl is being permanently damaged.

There are several possible causes of this noise and they've been discussed here many times. Twice within the last week on two thread I remember. Do a little searching/reading/research.

Doug