Not Another NuForce thread......

first off i owned ref 9, then ref 9se, i will be sending them in i a few weeks for V2, now let me see my initial investment is now current with whats sold new today. for cash up front, then some cash a year later, and again for the latest, deferred payment for current technology, IMO a great way of doing business. i am in great anticipation on getting V2 as reviews in positive feedback, stereo times, and others are so positive,
i am sorry that some find upgrading such a bad thing by nuforce but i surly dont see it that way,
i got my P-9 preamp several months ago, this preamp is the real deal, super quite, quite simple, motorized volume, two box design, that throws a super musical performance with the rest of my system. a huge up grade from p-8. but darn i had to buy new with out upgrading p-8, nuforce being the company that keeps there customers first give full retail trade in on p-8 even if you got it for less,
guys and gals how in the name of audio can you complain about nuforce. yes they may be nu on the scene. but i think they are bringing a needed breath of fresh air to the audio world.

Stlrains is right!!!!

You serotonin deficient people are hunting the wrong dog.

My upgrade price is the current new price and the warranty starts over.

Negative for the sake of negative boys and girls.

Stop it.

OK Guido, I'll bite. One of the amps that my little Nuforce Ref. 9 (v1) "behumbled" was the prized darTZeel NHB-108, weighing in at a hefty 65 lbs!

However, we only listened to 3 tracks or so, and as I said previously, synergy is everything with these amps... as I suspect it is with the darTZeel.

And I don't believe, based on such a short listening comparison, one can draw the conclusion that "this sounds better than that." But nonetheless, it was a very fascinating -- even shocking evaluation.

P.S. Your writing is fantastic!!!

To Guido,

I am a dealer with certain loyalties to my brands, and not in every circumstance will the Nuforce sound better.

So I don't want to slander my own brands by naming names, but with a little research you could find out what brands I am comparing to.
The best thing if you are skeptical is to hear these amps for yourself, the tide is turning, and many people are starting to realize that Class D can have real magic and are not just technological freaks, but real instruments.

There will always be people who are drawn to the massive metal and sound of some of these conventional class A or Class A/B monster amps, but I am also willing to bet many consumers are going to rethink that Class D can't get me there, line of reasoning.

Thank you for the info Ggil!!!
AudioOracle, given my prior quotation and the following you wrote:

"The Nuforce Version 2 amplifiers are a true breakthrough, compared with amplifiers which are four times the price the Nuforce in most respects sounds better,
these amplifiers really are very special. I have to agree with JB8312, I would compare the Nuforce with many of the 20k and above amplifiers, in fact I
am actively searching to find an amplifier which really does outperform these little marvels."

I am not sure if your claims of holding 'certain loyalties" have much merit. Declining to reveal the identity of 'leading brand X', does not hide the undeniable fact that you seem to favor NewForce over your other more expensive brands. Nothing wrong with that in my view, except for the self-delusional coyness.

yet, I am positive that there are aspects in brand x that may be desirable over NewForce. If would be helpful to both us and to your manufacturers if you could enlighten us over the relative strengths of New Force and the yet unnamed leading brand X amp.