Newbie needs to make a decision, Rogue? Manley?


After 2 years with a HT system, I realized that my music was lacking and that I needed to explore the 2 CH world. After reading numerous reviews, seeking the advise of several 2CH friends and talking to several dealers, I'm ready to take my first step and purchase a tube amp and then a pre-amp. First, my current system consists of an Anthem AVM 30 processor, a Rotel 1075 amp, a Rega Apollo CD player, Paradigm Studio 60 V.3's for my fronts, and a SVS 20-39 subwoofer. The interconnects and speaker wires are a snakes pit of mid-line Monsters which I know I will grade next (Signal Cable maybe). My living room serves as my HT/listening room. It's 26x12x8 with the setup against the long wall and my seating position against the opposite wall. The room is well furnished with a soft leather sofa, no coffee table and more than sufficient carpeting. I know my seating position is far from perfect but I have no options in my layout.

My first audition was with a Rogue Stereo 90 amp and then a Rogue Cronos integrated amp with Thiel 1.6 speakers. Needless to say that as a newbie I couldn’t really tell the difference between the two very well but I was impressed overall. Another dealer then offered to let me audition a used set of Rogue M-120’s mono-blocks at home for a month. It was at this point I truly heard a distinctive difference between the Rogue and the Rotel (especially with my own speakers which I feel I know well). To complicate matters the dealer whom I purchased the Rega from provided me with a set of Manley Mahi’s as well as various Cardas speaker wires, interconnects and PC’s. In the brief time I has this set-up I began to believe that sex with my wife was no longer necessary. I listen mostly to jazz and Cassandra Wilson’s husky contralto with the Mahi’s in triode mode with minimum feedback sounded like she was standing next to me. Unfortunately I did say a brief audition as one of the Mahi’s died after 5 hours of playing!! The dealer confirmed that the amp was defective. Unfortunately it will take him a few weeks to obtain another set.

With all that said, I’m ready to make a purchase before my money goes elsewhere. My budget can stretch to $3,000 for a tube amp or solid integrated tube amp. The Stereo 90 would be able to deal with less efficient speakers when I decide to upgrade (Thiels, Salks, etc.) however, I’m still intrigued by the sound of the Mahi’s. However with only 40 watts at ultra-liner mode I’m afraid the Mahi’s may not be a good match down the road with less efficient speakers. Whatever I end up with would also need to power my fronts when I use my HT set-up. I don’t think this would be much of a problem as I peak out at about 85db when I look at movies. Are there any other amps with an adjustable feedback in my budget? Sorry about the long post. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
mightyburner
Get the Rogue Magnum M150's, and you are set.Better than the 120's,I think.The Hurricanes are Chinese,buy American and in the event that you require service the Rogue people will be there with a smile to help you.
Best
George
It's always been my impression that Rogue has a somewhat aggressive midrange "house sound". Am I wrong about this? I'm sure someone will tell me that is the case. I wonder if that's the difference you hear between the Manley and Rogue?
I also like the Rogue Magnum 150. Find a nice used pair and you've spent your money wisely.

Skip the Hurricane idea. You have a better chance of success in Vegas or Atlantic City.
Why not try a tube preamp in your current setup first? Your paradigms are not the warmest or most lush speaker, but neither are Thiels so you may not be far off. You will not get the same sound as a full tube output, but you may be surprised how much tube goodness you can get and still have more power on tap giving more dynamics and potentially other benefits with less heat and maintenance. Rogue, VTL, Manley, and other nice sounding tube preamps can be had used for under a grand, and if you decided this didn't do the trick you add tube amps later. Just my 2 cents...