Need Advice - new system


I am ready to upgrade my system. I plan on using the system for both home theater (TV/movies) and music - probably a 50/50 mix. My listening room is a standard living room ~ 30'x20' with a tile floor and several Persian rugs, curtains, etc... After considerable research, I had decided on an Anthem MRX510 and a MCA-20 for additional power to the mains. My speaker system choice would be Focal 826W for the mains and Focal cc, surrounds and sub. I then looked further into Emotiva, which is receiving stellar reviews and, like the Anthem, has room correction software. I can get an Emotiva XSP-1 Gen 2 Pre Amp and an XPA-2 Gen 2 300W x2 or an XPA-5 Gen 2 200W x5 for nearly $1500.00 less than the Anthem system! I could then purchase a great separate tuner (FM, AM, HD, XM) and an Oppo BDP-103 with change to spare! I was also considering Paradigm Studio 60 speakers (& related ancillary speakers) or the Bower & Wilkins CM series... I have listened to all the speakers, and frankly I am stumped on which to choose as I love them all... I am also not certain if I should get a 5 channel amp or just a 2 channel amp for the mains. Please help me make sense of all this as I am stumped to how to proceed. My local dealer does not carry Emotiva, so I have not had the chance to audition Emotiva. Any other equipment suggestions would also be appreciated.
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I am a Focal guy and love my 836v speakers and almost got the 816v. I also do home theater and stereo in the same room. I personally would get a stereo integrated with a home theater bypass to power the mains so you can hook you stereo sources directly to the integrated. The Krell S300i would be my dream toy for this scenario and would be a fantastic match with the Focals. I was recently blown away by the 807v speakers using this amplifier.

The rest depends on your budget. You could do a surround receiver with pre-outs to process and handle the other channels. I think anything beyond 5.1 is overkill unless you have a dedicated theater room.
I think that you need to think of everything as a true system. How will the products integrate with each other? I have owned Focals and Proacs (selling off a couple of pairs), but fell in love with the Vandy Treo's after auditioning a ton of speakers. I noticed how different they all sounded depending on what the other components were. There were so many differences. I'm a tube guy, but wanted a SS integrate. I ended up with the Ayre as it sounds best with the Vandy's. I also thought it sounded best with the Paradigms, B&W's, all Focals, Dali, Dynaudio, Totem, Theils, Sonus and so many others. The Krell sounded pretty good to me (I have owned Krell and am even selling off a Krell Stealth), but it lacked midrange bloom when I heard them in the same situation that I heard the Ayre or a couple of others. For home theater, it's a GREAT amp to use as it has power to spare, like it always has.

There are so many great choices out there. I am not a home theater guy as it has to be set up perfectly and it costs too much to get great sound for me. That's why I stuck to two channel so that I could afford to get a great system, instead of just a really good one. I'm in the minority here I know.

I'm selling my Proac Supertowers AND Proac Studio's that are voiced identically. If you have interest in them as a package you can then add a new/used Proac center channel or even get another set of used Studio's. To me, that would be a better sounding system as they soundstaging, imaging would be much better than the Focal's that I could have gotten a few years ago, but the Proacs sounded better to me. The mids would also be more accurate and musical, but those are my ears, lol. Let me know if you have interest and we can talk.
The Krell sounds like a good idea, but it's still considerably more expensive than the Emotiva XSP-1 Gen 2 Pre Amp and an XPA-2 Gen 2 300W x2 or an XPA-5 Gen 2 200W x5, which I have in mind. I know some audiophiles like to bash Emotiva as mid-fi, but the reviews I have been reading state otherwise – their products are very highly regarded and are at a much more reasonable price point than anything even approaching similar quality/features. As far as the Proac Supertowers/Studios are concerned, I like the idea, but I am loathe to purchase speakers i have not heard and I am unlikely to find a dealer that carries the Proacs. I would like your opinions on Emotiva - for those that have experience with them. Should I go the Emotive route, I would save ~ $,1500.00, when compared to the Anthem system I was considering, and have separates! I could then purchase a great separate tuner (FM, AM, HD, XM) and an Oppo BDP-103 and still have a good chunk of change left over to allocate to the Focal speaker system. I was also considering Paradigm speakers or possibly Snell, but Snell is too expensive... I am not adverse to purchasing used components either. I am also not certain if I should get a 5 channel amp or just a 2 channel amp for the mains – I understand that I would need a 5 channel for the speaker suite I have in mind, but I could start with a 2 channel Emotiva for the mains, & when I have additional funds, I could purchase a center channel, sub and surrounds & another Emotiva 3 channel amp. I am also a bit confused regarding 5.1 systems: 2 mains, 2 surrounds, a center channel and a sub = 6 speakers – how does this work on a 5.1 system? Also, when listening to music, does the system automatically revert to 2-channel or would I need a separate “home theater bypass? Also, on the Emotiva pre amp are there controls for treble, bass, balance, etc... Please forgive my ignorance, but I am fairly new to Hi-Fi as my last new system was purchased ~ 20 years ago...
Where do you live? If you are close enough, you can come over and listen. These Towers have upgraded midbass drivers and are better than much of what is out there. They are more revealing and stage much better than any of the Paradigm Studio series I've heard to date. That's just my ear though. The Krell will blow away the Emotiva's. THey aren't in the same league. Forget reviews on things as many really are tainted. When you know the inside stuff in the industry you will realize that as well. Heck good old Sam Tellig is Tom Gillet (see what he did there with the last name?). That's not a bad thing, but to me I know how reviews are often done. Richard at Proac won't even give his speakers up for review as you have to hear them to understand how good they really are. Not everyone's cup of tea as they aren't etchy detailed and they don't use the most expensive driver, but they work with so many electronics. Since you like reviews, I figured I'd post one from a guy who just got a pair (in 2009) and decided to share.

Just scored a Proac Super Tower and Bryston 4b NRB, and WOW.....
I have recently scored a pair of passive Proac Super Tower (floor stand speakers) and a Bryston 4b, all of a sudden the world (of sound) clears up.

These are the bigger brothers of the Proac Studio 100s, they were the flagship of the studio series back in 1990s'. They have been discountinued.

The first word that came to my mind when I listen through them is "effortless". These speakers are very detailed, much more detailed than my trusted Focal Solo 6 BE. But listening through them does not feel like being overwhelmed by details; it's more like the details are right there, you can just grab it if you want to, just like real world, nothing needs to strike you for attention (I don't know if this makes any sense).

One thing I found very interesting is that the Focals are very dry, even though they represents excellent space, mixing reverb on them still need a lot of work. The Proacs are much wetter (not in the wrong way), space sound extremely real, the depth is so deep it's eerie. I listened to a lot of Jazz and classical recordings through these, these speakers made the room disappear, although small recording space will sound small, and bad recordings sound just bad. And it's sooo easy to spot out the bad frequencies you have an urge to just grab an EQ and correct them.

The thing that amazes me most is even though each speaker has 2 woofers and 1 tweeter, my 60 Watt/channel Marantz amp is able to drive them with ease. Although I got the Bryston for the ultimate cleanliness. On the Bryston, I've heard so many contradicting review about it - too bright, too harsh, very clean and musical, very deep... and I found them all correct.

The first time I plugged the Bryston into the speakers it sounded so bright and thin I almost wanted to unplug and return it. There was no depth. However after about half an hour or so the machine was at about body temperature, the sound changed.

So now I have the Marantz amp just so I can listen to the speakers with color. Actually for the first time I realized the Marantz amp (1120, made in 1975, one of the original Marantz models) actually sounded pretty good. It did not fair well with any other speakers I paired with them, both as amp or preamp.

I used to think my Benchmark DAC1 sounded pretty close to the Prism Orpheus(while definetly not as good, but within 5%) on the Focals, now the difference is much more. I can hear so much more depth with the Orpheus than the Benchmark.

It's almost bizzar that I prefer listening to them at the ear level at about a foot above the tweeters.