Diural's Roman Centurion Spk:Good or already Gone?

Greg - as far as power, I know that Dale used to show these speakers with the Cary V12 monos, and told me that they ran out of gas in the bass. I have tried using them with a 23 watt Wyetech Topaz that is a much stronger amp than my 50 watt Jolida 302B. Neither has great bass and sounds thin in the mid-bass. They are driven, but the tonality isn't correct. The Creek 5350SE does a better job than either. Could it be that solid state amps work better with the Centurions?

Rt_utopia, how do you like the Roman Audio Subwoofer.

use the Cabasse it uses the same woffer or better and has no middle man mark up.