Spades or bananas


Given the choice, is there a performance advantage with one over the other?
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I use silver spades and a Craftsman wrench to tighten the posts. Takes a kind touch on the wrench, but that extra 1/8 of a turn really helps with a "gas tight" bond on the connection. The downside is the spades really get mashed and are only good for a couple of tightening sessions.

For those who think the metal used in the connection doesn't make a difference -- I would argue!! But if you can't tell the difference, good for you!! One less thing to worry about (for you).

When I used Kimber 4 and 8TC and other raw wire, I never used spades due to the importance of the connection to the spade. I did use the "wrench" on the binding post. Again, you want a good gas tight bond on the connection surface area.

I would never buy spades or banannas for a cable that didn't come MFR terminated, otherwise I request silver connections.
There is no question that I can hear the detrimental effects of a spade fork terminal on my equipment. The first time I knew there were problems, was when Brisson/MIT released the first super high quality gold spade. I saw they were adaptable to 2 different bolt sizes and had heavy plating over copper. They could accept wire down to # 8 guage. I bought about 20 of them from Steve McCormack of the old "Mod Squad" in California. Anxious to hear an improvement over my cheap Thomas & Betts fork terminals, I crimped them on the wire I use so not to introduce solder to the mix. Both amp and speaker ends were done. I sat down to listen and could not believe my ears. The sound of my beloved system was degraded at a surprising level. I made very sure that I locked on to the sound that I heard. I literally would shut down the system after 20 minutes of listening since the magic was gone. (no this is not some lunatic imaginary problem that many claim is in our head). The goosebumps were gone, so I knew it was absolutely REAL. Upon restripping my wire, I figured I might as well try bare wire to see what that sounds like. WOW!!!!! All, and I mean ALL artifacts of brightness, or in the case of the MIT lug, dullness, were gone. The difference was HUGE. Detlof, you would have eaisily heard this also, so dramatic the difference on the Quad.
Believe me, this is a very important story in the life of a audiophile in pursuit of the most Natural sound.......Frank
Frank, your findings remind me of what good old Auntie Enid, Enid Lumley of yore used to say (she wrote for TAS and later for IAR, was much ridiculed for her findings then, many of which are accepted as common place now, a true pioneer she was and a golden eared one, if there ever was one)
She said, that gold plated spade-fork connectors sounded awful. She used to sandpaper her connectors down to the pure copper level to get the right sound she was after, which would point pretty much into the direction, you are pointing out. I think I'll start experimenting ....
Thanks Frank and Cheers!
Frank,

Are you saying that the cheap "Thomas & Betts fork
terminals" sounded better than the high quality gold
spades? You say that the sound degraded when you
went from your old spades to the new ones. I just
wanted to see if I read this right?
Hi Eastside, You read it correct. While the Thomas & Betts fork added unnatural artifacts to the sound, the MIT fork did the opposite. It dulled the sound and robbed the system of the NATURAL sound of the reference. The reference being the sound of the bare wire with no fork.
By the way, if anyone wants to really hear a pretty dramatic improvement, they should go out and purchase the Edison-Price binding post for their speakers and install them in place of the stock ones. Be prepared to be amazed after proper break in time. ALL parameters are improved.....Frank