Thanks Yuri. But I was really just feeling mischievous that day and was trying to wind Carl up. I was somewhat disappointed when he did not reply, but sure enough he came through in the end. As usual he substituted invective (now I am an ignoramus) for any semblance of reasoned argument, and continued to make assumptions about me (he can hear better than me and is more open-minded on cable mixing than me). And all this angst is meant to prove his opinions are truth, and others' (in this case mine) are not. Actually Carl I was not offended. I enjoyed every word. I am in two minds whether your latest arguments (accusations) require rebuttal, but don't want this little spat of ours to become tedious for others - so I will withdraw now and let others decide for themselves. My apologies to Kentt for having fun and messing around with your serious question.