What constitutes a "high output" moving coil cart?


Hi,

Lately I've been delving into different MM carts on my mid fi rig, and am itching to try a moving coil type. My phono pre limits my choices to "high output", so I am wondering if there is a sort of "dividing line" between low and high output, in terms of mVs. Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
rbloom659
It is important to find out where your phone stage starts getting noisy. If the cartridges output is too low, any benefits of the HOMC will just be lost. Everyone will react different. Every person has their own taste also.

In the '70s or '80s, they had a 4 channel LP system called CD4. Those cartridge had a higher limit to their frequency response. They came out with a new stylus shape around that time also. I remember giving it a try, and it was the worst investment for myself. I bought the Audio Technica CD4 compatible, the Empire 4000 series, and possibly another brand, to run this new 4 channel LP. Everything ended up being a waste for me. I even tried these in my other turntables, friends tried them, and they didn't want them either. They may be in the closet yet, as it couldn't be all the different turntable, arm, phono stage combination's mismatch. Others thought these cartridges were great.

So making sure the cartridge gets along with the arm, and preamp is important. The way it sounds is just someone else's opinion. I use all three of these types. They all could sound great, or poor.
I third what Nsgarch wrote regarding HOMCs vs the best of the MM and MI variety.
There are some HOMC cartridges that put out more than I imagined. I guess the are some cartridges that will output around 1mV that I've heard that sound good. Those may not work with a lot of MM phono preamps. Some of those would fit in the med-high output category. If your still using the Goldring 2200, that looks like it puts out 6.5mV. That's 6 times more than what I had in mind.

The biggest compromise of the group would be to use a to low of an output cartridge for your phono amp IMO. The Audible Illusion link is just to see how much they (cartridges) do vary, only. Some links to look at.[http://www.musicdirect.com/p-3733-goldring-2200-mm-cartridge.aspx][http://www.kabusa.com/pregain.htm] [http://www.audibleillusions.com/technical/bulletin2.htm]
Wow all this negativity towards HOMCs. I really like my Dynevector 20X HO into a Graham Slee Amp 2SE. I think it sounds much more detailed and dynamic than my MM Goldring cart for instance. I am not an analog nut and don't switch tables, arms and carts very often I should add. I still want to say that I am very satisfied with my HOMC it sounds great to me and I do keep company with analog nuts with "real" low MCs.