rumble issues - see old thread update


I originally posted this under amps
as I thought I might be experiencing clipping

looks like it's definitely turntable related and rumble from subtle record warpage is the main culprit

see my last comment on this thread

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?aamps&1273520086

may check out with my outboard ZYX Artisian phono pre when I get it back from a friend

Tom
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The key point to mention however is, that with Vibraplanes, microscope tables, etc., the entire 'table is suspended - the critical relationship between drive system and platter is still intact.
Agreed, and we go even further. In our setup the entire table + system + rack are suspended as a single entity, well away from the table and drive system. All our sorbothane floor supports see is a single, rigid mass of nearly 400 lbs. This is very different from sticking it directly beneath the TT feet or something. I tried that once, just for ha-ha's, and it sucks big time.

Agree that the connections between drive system, platter, bearing, plinth, armboard, tonearm, cartridge, LP and record clamp must be as non-compliant as one's components allow. The only compliance anywhere in our vinyl setup is Stillpoints instead of spikes beneath the plinth. As anyone who's tried them knows, they do ennable a tiny degradation of transient speed and dynamics, though most feel the reduction in sound floor makes for a worthwhile tradeoff.

It's about thoughtful implementation, as always.
Hi Doug,

Thanks for the clarification on your Sorbothene implemenation, as well as the validation that locating it closer to the source component is a non-starter.

Cheers,
Thom @ Galibier
What I find bothersome about the MinusK, and I fully admit I have no experience with it, are the reports of these going into oscillation by something like a cd drawer opening and closing. It seems that they do dampen out and work, but I can't imagine my gear on top of something that moves when queuing a record. I suppose I'd have to see it, but it doesn't sound comforting. :-)
Finally resolve what was wrong

the feather test - moving a feather lightly against the cartridge parallel to the record should move  the headshell

If not the tonearm bearing isn't moving properly


The tonearm bearing wasn't moving suficiently so the cantilever was moving up and down causing all the pumping

had the bearing fixed