Designer in wall wiring - worth it?


I have two dedicated outlets for my system using standard 12 gauge with short runs of about 15' to the breaker box. I used 12 gauge in this case due to the very short runs. I have recently experienced some very positive results with Audience speaker and ethernet cables, and it got me thinking it would not be crazy money to try the Audience in-wall shielded 10 gauge cable. Has anyone tried the Audience cable or other "designer" AC cabling? Did you find it to be a significant upgrade?

 

zlone

Yes, totally worth it; for the price point = best money I have spent in my audio room. Total cost cheaper than buying power cords. I had a master electrician upgrade my electrical panel, house grounding, and then run two dedicated lines to my room...also new upgraded wall outlets. A noticeable improvement in my system...instantly. I gave the electrician a "go by" to use as reference = one others have posted here on Audiogon. We discussed it in-depth and he followed it perfectly.

Dedicated AC power lines and wall power improvements for audio.
– updated 8/2024 – By Vince Galbo

 

@jmrrobbie1 

This thread is specifically discussing the merits of using in-wall audiophile grade romex. 

Was this installed in your system? 

I really don’t want to wade into the specialty power cable debate, and for the record, I didn’t say in wall cables had no sound, but that power conditioners were a better place to spend your funds.  If you think boutique in-wall NM cable (i.e. Romex style) will change the sound of your music I’d like to know which attribute you think it’s affecting, and doing better than a power conditioner.  Among them: 

  • Reducing noise in the audible band
  • Reducing noise above the audible band (EMI/RFI)
  • Reducing emitted noise
  • Controlling AC voltage so it’s constant, and less prone to voltage sag
  • Power factor correction or some other resonant circuitry
  • Power regeneration

Or did I miss some other attribute or power transmission that is important here?  In every single one of those cases above, except perhaps noise emission we can find some example of a power conditioner has measurable benefits.  Not every conditioner will do all, of course, but the scale of improvement is enormous compared to anything you are allowed to do in the wall of a building.

 

I would offer - if going to the trouble of upgrading the in-wall path to the audio room, why not cleanup/upgrade your electrical grid for the entire house. My panels were 20+ yrs old and the cheapest contractor grade material, the wall outlets the same. The grounding was a very poor short spike. Having two dedicated lines to the room put in was great - but cleaning up the entire path was money well spent. The last two pages of Vince's paper sums it up well; in the paper, he also covers the in-wall path well.  A worthy read.....