@ditusa Power Conditioners do not solve any of these common problems see page # 38.
Mostly true, however I think the power regenerators like I have do mitigate more of these problems than the more passive filter systems.
Designer in wall wiring - worth it?
I have two dedicated outlets for my system using standard 12 gauge with short runs of about 15' to the breaker box. I used 12 gauge in this case due to the very short runs. I have recently experienced some very positive results with Audience speaker and ethernet cables, and it got me thinking it would not be crazy money to try the Audience in-wall shielded 10 gauge cable. Has anyone tried the Audience cable or other "designer" AC cabling? Did you find it to be a significant upgrade?
Mostly true, however I think the power regenerators like I have do mitigate more of these problems than the more passive filter systems. |
The miles and miles of wire argument makes sense on the surface, however, the length of your power cord can affect performance depending on its geometry and dielectric configuration, reducing the noise and phase issues that reach your component. I do agree it is all somewhat ludicrous, but with recent upgrades to my system I have been able to clearly perceive strengths and weaknesses in my collection of power cords and their performance with different components in my system. This was the reason for this post, in a resolving system, could some fancy wire extend those benefits? |
@zlone said:
. My response: The quoted material from my post above is part of Best Practices for the installation of branch circuit wiring to feed audio equipment. You don’t want any voltage, (and with voltage there can noise), on the safety EGC, (Equipment Grounding Conductor), of the branch circuit wiring. What difference would that make for a piece of audio equipment that uses the EGC if there is a small voltage and or noise on the EGC? The EGC is solidly connected to the metal chassis of the equipment. In some fashion the audio equipment electronics designer connected the circuit signal ground, and the B- of the power supply, to the connected EGC grounded chassis. That’s not a good thing if the EGC has a slight, small voltage or noise on the grounding conductor. You don’t want either to get into the audio equipment signal path. Where more than one dedicated branch circuit is used to feed audio equipment, connected together by wire interconnects, a small voltage on the EGC in millivolts of any dedicated circuit can cause a ground loop hum. . As for a residential house wireman, or even a journeyman inside wireman for that mater, they could care less about if any twists are in the Romex as they install it. They do watch for sharp bends or kinks. They also could care less if dedicated audio branch circuit Romexes are pulled closely together above ceiling truss members. Or ran in close proximity of LED and dimmer control branch circuit wiring. Induced voltages from one cable to another or noise transfer from a cable to another/others is not a concern to them. That's not even on their mind. Does the light turn on when the wall switch is flipped on? Are all the wall outlets hot with the correct AC polarity and EGC shows OK not OPEN GROUND. As for following Best Practices for installing electrical wiring to feed audio equipment, the average licensed electrician, would just roll his eyes. A residential house wireman would probably just look at you. Hey, it’s just Romex. As for electrical safety codes. They could care less how an audio system sounds. Is the electrical wiring and installation safe?. . 2023 Code Language:
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I took a whole new approach to this problem. I bought a 600 V bus bar that’s 10 feet long from an industrial supply house. I hung it from the ceiling in my space and I got rid of all the connectors and I just bolt onto the bus bar right above where I need power. I think I ran a eight gauge back to the panel to feed the bus bar. It works great , Sometimes I think I hear it hum, But I think it’s all my imagination. now I have all the power I need or will ever need! |
I’d like someone to do this experiment: buy a 1.5M section of the various types of exotic in wall wire, put decent connectors on them, and compare in their system to gauge their overall quality and sound signature. Include 12ga cryo’ed and non-cryo’ed romex for completeness. Sell them as a package used, and I’ll be the first buyer. Then we’ll start a forum thread to compare so the same people can tell us that we’re crazy. :) We could even solicit opinions from prominent reviewers. |