Battle of the phone pres for my system.


I have a Yamaha GT-750 with a Hana SH mk 1. I had it running into my Musical Fidelity A1 and listened through Dynaudio Evoke 20 speakers. I have tinnitus so I listen off-axis and liked the sound. I had ordered a Decware Zrock3 and hadn't considered when I ordered it how I was going to use it. When if finally came, I realized I could only use it with my transport and DAC )and it was worth every penny.)

A friend lent me their Manley Chinook so I could see how it would work with my analog front end and the Manley/Decware combo was pretty sweet. I can't afford a Manley and after removing the Zrock3 and going head to head with the A1 didn't make me feel that I wouldn't choose it anyway. After casting about, I was all set on getting a 834 clone and putting in some nice tubes. Then I read about the Softone Model 4 and saw systems like @lalitk and @macg19 . It sounds like what I would want if I put some Mullards in it (though hopefully cheaper ones). I ran across many others who could afford a more expensive phono pre using the Softtone. 

As I was searching, the google AI wanted to help so bad that I asked it what it thought. It said the Softone would match better with my equipment and gave a bunch of reasons that were things I hadn't thought of, like gain matching and cumulative power running through the system. It seemed to think that 834 would be more problematic and too much syrup.

I told AI to make the 834 work or I would delete it from the internet, and it told me to put a 5751 (less gain because of the Hana's output coming in) in V1, then a Raytheon then a Mullard. Or something like that for gain and sound differences taking into account my tinnitus and to match my system. It seemed sound thinking, but again, stuff I hadn't considered. I didn't write it down, but it made me wonder. It congratulated me on my awesome thinking on putting together my amazing system. I closed the browser to make it forget this ever happened.

I figured I thought I would ask real people what they thought since I'd prefer empirical evidence over data surfing. The other point in favor of the Softone is that it's a real product and not an aliexpress special, though plenty of people are happy with their clones, all are one and one are all. 

Thanks.

 

letch

I haven't gone for that yet. First is to try out the Mullard tubes in the Softone. Then if that doesn't work, I'll buy the 834. Currently, I've blown out my ears from all this testing and listening. I'll probably be ready to listen again by the time the tubes arrive. 

@letch 

I think you have missed a trick here.

Your Musical Fidelity A1 has a Tape Out ( for recording ) and Tape Input. The A1 also has a Tape Monitor switch on the front panel.

If you connect Tape Out to the input of the Zrock3, and the output of the Zrock3 to the Tape Input, you can then switch the equalisation in and out using the Tape Monitor switch on the front panel. 

Basically you can select any source using the selector, but push the tape monitor switch, and you will get the selected source with the eq on.

My other suggestion would be to get an audiologist to test your hearing to determine what frequencies are you most sensitive to with your tinnitus. Then you could eq out the most troubling frequency range using graphic equaliser in the tape loop set up I have just described.

Best wishes.

 

 

 

 

@dover 

There is no Tape Monitor switch on the front panel. I have the newer version. I see this on the web:

"What once was the tape monitor button on the front panel was repurposed into a gain switch."

The audiologist I saw (local hospital) said my hearing is perfect for my age and that tinnitus is all in my head. I asked why does an ambulance going by nearly cripple me and he shrugged. Told me to stop eating salt and caffeine. 

 

Keep in mind that when you sub the 5751 for 12AX7, you will have lower gain at all settings, because the 5751 has a lower mu. The reduction in gain might make you perceive the music as less irritating but the same effect can be realized with the AX7s by reducing the volume.

I took out the 5751s and am currently waiting on the Mullards 12ax7s from Brent Jesse or rather, Jon Oas. Hopefully next week. Currently listening to CDs in the meantime.