The Shunyata Research OMEGA-X-Ethernet Cable

@frank009 

I haven’t heard this cable to have an opinion about it ... have you?

I have extensively listened to the Shunyata catalog, in a properly treated and credentialed Mastering room with evolution acoustics monitors and top quality, amplifier and monitor controller, etc.

... and particularly when it comes to power cords, yet in general across the line, this is not a snake oil company

science based tech   
 

audible results 

also ... you totally abuse and misused the concept of virtue signaling… Which makes this post seem like it was made by someone who’s not very smart. 
 

virtue signaling is a very specific thing with a moral component

A cable manufacturer claiming superior performance isn’t making a moral claim at all — they’re making a technical/commercial claim. There’s no virtue being signaled. The right criticism would be something like “marketing hype,” “audiophile snake oil,” or “unsubstantiated performance claims.”

And yet have you done any listening? If we haven’t done any listening, then we should probably shut the F up until we do.

I get the engineering rationale, assuming we can measure for everything. However, I’m reasonably confident that the technology to measure everything has yet to be invented. In the meantime I use my ears.  If a new cable or component, regardless of cost makes an improvement in my ability to listen for enjoyment I’m good with without knowing on the molecular level why that is. 

@kevemaher 

Conversations such as this one are meaningless. Nobody wins, everybody loses. These conversations inevitably turn into name calling, which is not constructive, nor do they help move the conversation forward.

Contributors are on one side or the other - subjective or objective.

Neither opinion will ever convince the other side.

A really good topic that everyone can enjoy without taking sides is a far better use of the space on this forum.

This is a truly sharp-witted and rational realization.

At one point, I was fighting fire with fire. Now, I am fighting fire with water.

To destabilize and eventually put out the flames of ignorance and sheer disrespect.

Others may disagree with my beliefs about all things audio, and they are welcome to. However, I am not going to try and convince the naysayers that I'm right and they're wrong.

As a matter of fact, we are always learning more in this hobby. It makes sense to stay curious and help each other out, rather than get in to pointless conflicts.

I'm always glad when you post because you make sense and have a grounded way of responding to others.

All the best.

@brianlucey 

And yet have you done any listening? If we haven’t done any listening, then we should probably shut the F up until we do.

If I were you, I would take it easy with the profanity and taking things too personally. That is uncalled for on an adult-only forum. We are not high school students, so please act your age.

To answer your question, I have not heard this specific ethernet cable.

However, I have experience with CCIE level knowledge regarding computer networking, since my son is a network engineer.

To me, it seems a bit irrational that you are challenging the beliefs of someone whose job it was to maintain quality control and manufacturing standards over numerous sites around the world, among many other roles that were extremely challenging such that those before me were getting fired; while I marched on and eventually retired at will when I wanted to.

You are welcome to pick up a computer networking textbook (Cisco is my favorite and probably the best) and read about the OSI model, TCP/IP, and ask an AI agent such as ChatGPT specific questions about the cable making a difference in your audio system.

As I had already stated previously,

The master clock (crystal oscillator that controls timing) is already doing the heavy lifting for incoming signals. Audio equipment is not adverse to ethernet, and hence the engineers who designed the audio components you are using must have built them competently and professionally.

The solution would be to find a double-shielded ethernet cable of considerable build quality and compare it directly with the ethernet cable from this company. Level match and write down your impressions on a notepad. Separate pages, different days. Let’s see what the results are. 

I am not one for brand loyalty or clinging to a certain product line unless the results are consistent and repeatable. If that cannot be proven, there is no basis for claims that such a product is superior for an intended purpose.

Peace.

@frank009 and if I were you, I would stop pretending that you’re some sort of authority when you stated that you haven’t done any listening… Everything you said after that is irrelevant including projections about brand loyalty, who’s talking about loyalty? No one.

and who’s defensive? I would say you are.

you seem extremely defensive and loyal to your established ways of thinking… The definition of a closed mind and a very loud and long-winded mouth

finally on profanity… Scientific studies show, and you can look this up, that people who swear are much more trustworthy… So I return to my previous comment, STFU if you haven’t listened, because all you have is theory, and this is not a discussion form for theories

in the same way, we don't discuss music theory, because music theory has nothing to do with what makes good music