audiophile folklore - cables and claims from manufacturers


The cable debate.

Cables make a difference, sure. 

But SHOULD they?

I have been grappling with this question for the better part of 20 years! 

Fanatical claims from manufacturers, talking about how their cables will improve your system in specific ways, sonically. 

More accurate bass, cleaner midrange sounds, treble resolution... etc. soundstage and imaging, you get the idea.

The fundamental disconnect is - they have never heard YOUR system! 

So then, how do they know what their cables will sound like in your system. Not to mention, astronomical prices on some of these interconnects. The wilder the claims, the higher the cost.

The behavior we should be looking for is passing on the signal, with as little losses as possible. That can be done relatively cheaply, with well made professional interconnects that cost less than 100 dollars in most cases.

If you could build an audio system (all of it) from thrift store finds and cables really did make that much of a difference, then wouldn’t the sound quality scale that way?

It seems many audiophiles I know are in denial. And even worse, some use cables as TONE controls! This is where audiophoolery becomes a religion. Audio dealers promote it, because it impacts their bottom line! 

frank009

A shorter signal path is better in isolation... but start packing more subcomponents and parallel wires in a small space and they start interacting with each other... then it isn't better. Every little detail counts.... and a we frequently say, it depends. 

Seems like “I’m right, until proven wrong” mentality.

Seems like “Inside my box defines everything outside my box”

Seems like laziness to simply research why audio cables matter. OP hasn’t bothered to read Iconoclast white papers which show measurements in wire geometry and dielectrics.

Seems liking to be argumentative aka “prove me wrong”

Broadcast Audio ≠ High End Audio

Do those in BA know what a Magnepan, Sonus Faber, Magico, MBL,…sound like?

Do BA know what a great tube amp sounds like? How about class A, AB…?

Thinking that BA have golden ears superior is to ours? In our hobby which is seeking higher fidelity?

Ridiculous.

If that were true wouldn't integrated amps always sound better than separates, and wouldn't all-in-ones sound best?

Don't stop there, the shorter the speaker cables the better, right? 

We should all have ghetto blasters.

It's a fact. Don't deny it. Do not make your own observations, that would be science. Just obey the prophet. And stay close to home so that you don't fall off the edge of the earth. 

@cleeds 

There you go again, talking like you haven't got a clue.

@tomcy6 

You seem to be on the wrong train of thought. Preamplifiers and Power amplifiers that are used for their own respective purposes in their own boxes don't have the negative interactions that all integrated and all-in-one audio components have.

In addition, the gain structure of a preamp + a matching power amplifier, same brand, same series, is often going to sound better than an integrated amplifier from the same manufacturer.

If you think about it at first, it seems clever to stuff everything in one box, but you can't cheat physics and electricity. 

@ghdprentice 

Finally, someone here with something smart to say. And that's right!