Break In Question?


I have been under the assumption that in order for a component to break in there must be a signal pass through from one piece of equipment to another. That is, running a Dac/Preamp into an amp, the amp must be turned on for the Dac/Preamp to break in.

But is this really true? Does the amp really need to be turned on?

ozzy

ozzy

audition_audio, I essentially stopped communicating with you, as it was fruitless. 

However, I am clarifying your misinformation when you state, "HIs premise essentially is telling us that he can hear things that believers in break in cant. He did tests!" Your comment is entirely inaccurate. I have never said that I can hear things that believers in break in cannot. That would be a foolish comment. 

What I have said, and those who wish to return to my previous posts can feel free to verify, is that the testing reveals things that are in conflict with the experience of perceiving  (hearing) break in. I believe any audiophile who would have sat in with me on the testing - one audiophile who has excellent listening skills and a high end system did join me for one of the experiments (guess where I discuss that?) - would have experienced the same thing, not hearing a difference between the broken in and new gear. 

I am not saying, nor have I said in previous posts, that my ability to hear is superior to anyone else here. 

 

@douglas_schroeder From where could you conclude that the perceived break-in is wrong and that your testing is right? What makes your testing as reliable as it sounds to be?

Btw, I would like to know which product you used to compare this break-in test. We all know certain products have more drastic break-in than others. Did you use a product with significant change in sound? And then do a testing of such product in a new vs old head to head comparison?

@douglas_schroeder 

I have 2 big head-scratchers with your assessments.

1) Your premise is that hearing is unreliable, but you used hearing in a test as the final conclusion.

2) Again, "hearing is unreliable" and yet the changes heard usually follow quite a strict guideline. I can list out these guidelines again but I’ve done a couple of times already. Look for #1-7 above.

Example. Why does Class A amplifier sound best after 120 mins, and not class D.

You are making a critical mistakr of detective work, that is following the clues that support your theory instead of changing theory to fit the evidence.

People are just getting too warmed up with this discussion. Stop punishing yourselves any further. Let it all go….. Switch off….

Nobody wins this one.

At least it seems ozzy got the answer he was asking for, from fellow believers, before this went off the rails...