SL-1200GME Turntable


Hey vinyl world!

What cartridge would be a good contender to pair up with my brand new Technics SL-1200GME ? Looking for a good one as my BAT VK-33SE preamp and Pass X-150.8 amp are total Titans. The Thiel speakers are always up to the task.

 

I use a separate VTL tube phono stage TP2.5 ,1st version . 

velocityofhue

"In the manual it has

"Gain listed at 60db (MC)"

@velocityofhue 

Your phonostage is ready for .5mv LOMC 

 Look at higher performance Audio Technica -ART9 or 20 

Audio Technica - AT-ART9XI Dual MC Phono Cartridge - Music Direct

Audio Technica - AT-ART20 Dual MC Phono Cartridge - Music Direct

Lyra

Lyra - Delos MC Phono Cartridge - Music Direct

Lyra - Delos MC Phono Cartridge - Music Direct

If I spent $7K on a table, I certainly would look at more upscale carts than the AT33 or Nagaoka suggested. Good carts, but you can do much better.

Based on your expenditure, you're not too concerned with "bang for buck/value."

 

OP,

https://www.vtl.com/products/phono-preamplifiers/tp2-5/

 

you have 1 MM and two MC gain settings; and several MC impedance settings

this is a chart, two vertical columns, the lines dissapeared

left column is MC, right column is MM

Vacuum Tube Complement 1 x 12AU7 2 x 12AX7, 1 x 12AT7
Inputs 1 pair single-ended RCA 1 pair single-ended RCA
Outputs 1 pair single-ended RCA
Gain (Total 62dB) 56 dB or 62 dB 42 dB
Output Impedance 425Ω
Frequency Response +0 -1 dB 10Hz – 50kHz
Maximum Output Voltage <1% THD 20V
Cartridge load impedance Variable: 100Ω, 250Ω, 470Ω, 1kΩ, 4k7Ω, 47kΩ 47kΩ, 100kΩ
Minimum Recommended Cartridge Output 0.2 mV 1.5 mV
Signal to Noise Ratio 50 dB 56 dB
Channel Separation > 50dB (20 Hz – 20 kHz)
Power Consumption 25W
Dimensions W x D x H 19 x 14 x 3.75″ / 48.25 x 35.5 x 9.5 cm
Weight 25 lbs (11.34 kg) packed

Congratulations on your new GME.  I have the older GAE and from that experience offer the following thoughts.  Your arm is medium mass, stick with the OEM head shell unless the cartridge you settle on has very high mass and very low compliance, in which case you should use a higher mass head shell.  That would be a very unusual choice.  Your GME will work well with the vast majority of cartridges on the market.  It is quite versatile.  You will find that it works quite well and is compatible with both MM and MC cartridges from any of the major manufacturers.  I have used mine successfully with cartridges that retailed ranging from sub $500 to $10,000.  In terms of your question about SUTs, it has been my experience that for low output cartridges, the insertion of a transformer between the cartridge and the phono stage is always serendipidous.  I use the 47 kohm input with an SUT in preference to high gain direct stages, even though I have the option.  That is true both using my solid state and tube phono preamps.   If you really want to dig into the technical arguments for transformers, I believe you might find something by or about the work of John Curl on this subject.

I avoided buying used cartridges, until I decided to risk it. This seller is one I trust and would buy again from:

https://reverb.com/item/95620911-audio-technica-vm760slc-vm-type-stereo-cartridge-w-hs-4-headshell-from-japan

It has their best stylus, Special Line Contact, which also has the longest life due to it’s largest amount of contact area (which requires excellent alignment). 

It’s cantilever is aluminum, I don’t know why they didn’t use boron, perhaps to offer the best stylus, and keep the price down a bit. We have all had excellent sounding cartridges with aluminum.

As far as Imaging, it has 30db separation, and channel balance of 1.0 db. To get tighter 0.5db channel balance you will need to spend a good bit more.

Here is the newer x version, boron cantilever, and body threads for easier mount.

https://www.audio-technica.com/en-eu/cartridges/type/moving-magnet/at-vm760xsl

btw, these are MM, with the advantage of user replacable stylus.

https://www.audio-technica.com/en-eu/vmx-series-cartridge

If you ever see a discontinued model, even one with a worn tip, broken cantilever (I've done that twice) a new stylus, even an upgraded one may be possible, or have a re-tipper like VAS re-build it.

https://www.audio-technica.com/en-eu/support/which-stylus-can-i-use-to-replace-my-discontinued-model

 

 

 

Moving Coil

It’s not an absolute, but the guidance for impedance loading is:

cartridge coil impedance x 10, so a coil like the AT33 mentioned above is 10 ohms, thus recommended load is around 100 ohms (no need to be exact). I have the AT33PTG/II and like it very much.

Just check if one of your phono stage's MC loading options is close to the resulting combo you are considering

you have options: 100Ω, 250Ω, 470Ω, 1kΩ, 4k7Ω, 47kΩim. just divide by 10, and see if that is close to the cartridge’s coil impedance.

The reason I mention this is because there are some difficult combinations of output strength/coil impedance out there.

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