Moon North Collection Versus Pass Labs X350 - Which would have that liquid sound?


Question.... Has anyone heard both the Moon Amp 861/891 preamp and the Pass Labs X350 amp and x22 preamp? 

I would like to know which one would have more of a liquid sound? 

dman777

Sure thing. Amp is P-7500 and preamp is C-2900. Waiting at this very moment for the delivery of DP-770 SACD player. The 770 has multiple digital inputs. I have decided to move away from streaming as primary source of music consumption. Later next week I will test out a cheap Zen 3 Streamer which has native Tidal and is a Roon endpoint. I think the Zen is also JPLAY compatible. It should do the job which is background music and discovery from time to time.

I am extremely satisfied with the Accuphase amplification and see no reason to search for anything else at this point. But I’ve said that before 😝, no seriously the Accuphase gear is phenomenal- I love it to pieces 

@dman777 

Both of my systems are in my virtual system profile but can summarize: Both are anchored by the HV series of T+A DACs, where my primary system has a separate T+A preamp, the second has the preamp built in - very similar function to the North 891 but a price point up from the Sim unit. The amplifiers in my primary system are Atma-Sphere Class D monos.

To clarify - I love the sonics I’m getting out of my gear, but the North units would have been simpler, less expensive (except for the Class D monos), come with a much better remote, and sonically darn close.

I have the Moon 761/791 with Transparent super cables and Sonus Faber Sonetta V speakers. I love the Moon products and sound. If I had to upgrade anything it's definitely would be upgrading my speakers. The 861/891 is better, but the cost difference in my opinion does not justify moving up.

@dman777 

Not sure what your definition of liquid sound is. Is it warmth or is it the euphonic sweet, silky type of sound. If it’s the latter I don’t know if either Pass or Moon fit that description. 

I’ll give it a shot so you can decide if it’s helpful or not…

I’ve owned X250.5 driven by ARC tube preamps, XA30.8/XP-22 and X260.8 mono amps with XP-22 and test drove ARC Ref6 with the X260.8 for a couple of weeks.

The Class A XA is the warmest and the mellowest sounding with somewhat wooly bass and paints the soundstage with a really big brush. Very pleasant sound if that’s what you’re after.
The X260.8 monos are much tighter, have more control and more bite with better instrument separation and better details. Still warm sounding and has the typical Pass Labs homogeneous sound signature that makes everything sound good. It won’t render a lot of recordings unlistenable. It will not be analytical sounding and won’t be very exciting sounding either. The X350.8 will most likely adhere to the same general sonic principles. 
The XP-22 preamp is excellent. I couldn’t really decide between the ARC Ref6 and XP-22 as both were extremely capable. I stayed with XP-22 as to me it portraits the recording more accurately than the larger than life presentation of Ref 6 which is amazing in its own way. I’d be happy with either but I already owned the 22 and decided to stick with it at the time.

I no longer have the Pass stack as I simplified my system quiet a bit. I’m running a Boulder 866 integrated now. There’s not been a day when I caught myself thinking man it would be nice to have that Pass stack now. No…I kind grew tired of the homogenous presentation after years of owning that gear  

Have not heard Moon North so can’t really speak to it.

As @audiopacer stated, Pass amps run hot. Not an issue in a large air conditioned room but you will feel it.