Which Cartrudge For My Upcoming Technics 1200 GR 2 Turnable - Looking at Ortofon 2m Black


Note: Sorry about the misspelled Cartridge in title. Wish I could update that. 

 

I have a  Luxman 595 Class A amplifier with Focal N1 speakers. Depending on the recording, it can be on the bright side.  I own about 20 records. 80% of them are electronic mixes from the 90s. The rest are dinosaur jr, mazzy star, and so on. 

I have found memories of playing my grandfathers fisher turntable (with Mitsubushi stereo system) which looked similar to the Technics 1200GR2, so that is the turntable I am going to get. I also have found memories of going to the record store in the 90s (sound warehouse) and they had a Bose 901 VI system (I think... they were very large hung from the cieling) with a turtable that sounded so good. 

The sound I am looking for is *not a audiophile high resolving sound. Instead, I am looking for a energetic sound with power. I do want good audio quality though. 

What I am looking at is the Ortofon 2m Black LVB 250 or the 2m black. I never hear them in person. What is everyones thoughts?

dman777

@elliottbnewcombjr I have owned Hana EL and Hana ML with aluminum cantilever. Neither had any audible distortion, or at least within the frequency range I can hear. Not sure what you meant by this…

The difference, to me, is the ability to successfully trace very high frequencies without distortion

One of us either overthinking everything or oversimplifying things…

 

@audphile1 

 

Bass, Imaging

For me, it’s about bass and imaging. Sapphire Tube; Boron; Beryllium Tube ...I  believe I hear slightly more accurate bass, tighter, bass reverb or decay, and tighter imaging all instruments, but also involving the overtones of bass that do become directional.

Highs

the manufacturers talk about tracking high frequencies, so I mentioned it, but as I said, age 77, I can’t even hear them.

Sometimes they are talking about staying in the groove of torture tests, that was Shure’s claim to fame for the V15VxMR tracking at 1.0 gm. with the .0005 inch thick MicroWall Beryllium. 

"The Shure V15VxMR features a proprietary Microwall/Be™ cantilever, an ultra-thin-walled hollow beryllium tube (0.0005-inch wall thickness, 18-mil diameter) that achieves the highest stiffness-to-mass ratio (6.25:1) of any stylus cantilever ever made.  This unique geometry, combined with a MASAR-polished Micro-Ridge diamond tip, provides ultra-low effective mass and exceptional high-frequency trackability at a recommended tracking force of 1 gram."

Is it subtly better? Worth the extra cost? I encourage others to pay attention to the trend of many makers, what they say, the resultant specs,

and, after spending a heck of a lot of money on the rest of my vinyl system, I'm gonna pay the difference for Boron, or, save money by risking used Vintage 

I've never heard anyone criticize Boron.

Ok. I don’t know if we can generalize our assumptions based on design. I haven’t heard every cartridge under the sun but I am pretty sure there is more to it than the cantilever material and stylus shape. 

Elliott, yes VMN60xSL is correct.  Sorry for the confusion.  I agree with you about boron for cantilevers too, although cactus needle works quite well too in my Hyperion.  Aluminum is fine too of course.  The execution is more important than the material methinks.   I am worried about all the reports of people hearing too bright sounds from various MM cartridges.  I wonder if it would be too technical to tackle that subject in a new thread?  It is sometimes not as simple as adding a little capacitance to your MM cartridge.  What think ye?

@billstevenson 

I never paid much attention to capacitance, It’s been ’a bridge too far’ for me.

People’s hearing varies, they don’t know what we are hearing, unless you develop a relationship, talk, agree both hear this or that.

What I want to know is if you figured out how to post photos???????

I've got a Cactus Needle story, and it involved a lot of sound!!!!!!