Expanding the Class D Conversation: How Would You Characterize Their Differences?


Expanding the Class D Conversation: How Would You Characterize Their Differences?

I'm currently trialing the NAD M23 (1st gen. Eigentakt-based), and I find it intriguing enough to want to understand it better — which means understanding the broader sonic landscape of class D. So I'm crowd-sourcing.

In a recent exchange, the estimable Ralph Karsten (Atma-Sphere Music Systems) made two comments that stopped me cold. For those who missed it, here's what he said:

"IME, class D amps vary in sound more than tube amps, which is to say, quite a lot."

"IMO there is a bigger difference between various class D amps than you hear between various tube amps. IOW just because you heard one class D amp says nothing about how the next one might sound."

Link: https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/2885828

As I think through this more carefully, these are genuinely important claims. My own experience with tube amps confirms that they produce audibly distinct characters across topologies and designs. If Ralph is right and class D exceeds that range, then generalizing from one class D experience to another is even more hazardous than I assumed.

One specific question for Audiogon members:

If you have a Class D amp or have compared class D amplifiers, how would you describe their character(s)?

Here are some criteria I use:

  1. Frequency balance — Is the tonal response even across bass, mids, and treble, or does it favor certain regions?
  2. High-frequency texture — Are the highs extended and smooth, or edgy, grainy, and fatiguing?
  3. Bass definition — Is the low end tight and articulate, or loose and bloated?
  4. Midrange character — Does the midrange feel present and natural, or recessed and thin?
  5. Transient speed — Does the amp respond quickly to dynamic attacks, or does it sound sluggish and rounded?
  6. Dynamic range — Does it scale convincingly from quiet passages to loud ones, or compress the difference?
  7. Soundstage width and depth — Does it create a convincing three-dimensional image, or sound flat and narrow?
  8. Image specificity — Are instruments and voices placed precisely, or do they blur and wander?
  9. Background noise floor — Is the silence between notes actually silent, or is there grain, haze, or hash?
  10. Long-term listenability — After an extended session, do you want to keep listening, or has something been quietly fatiguing you?

If you can include relevant system context — room, speakers, preamp — please do. Those variables will help me interpret what the amp itself is contributing.

I'm less interested in rankings than in understanding what Ralph mentioned, namely the [vast] range of sonic signatures class D is capable of. Eigentakt, Hypex, Pascal, Purifi, GaN-based, etc. — all fair game.

Price is no constraint here — I'm interested in the full range of what's out there.

hilde45

I have multiple amps in my arsenal including various tube amps, and multiple solid state amps that I tend to run in the summer including a Krell XD, an accuphase A45, and a SIT-3.  With the right speakers, the SIT-3 is quite magical, with a smooth, detailed and non-fatiguing presentation, and a certain rightness about it. 

 

I also had a lauded pair of Class Ds but they never seemed right in my system so I sold them.

The Krell and Accuphase are exceptional but I tend to run the SIT-3 more often.   It does need to be paired with the right speakers.  There aren’t many of them out there but when they pop up they tend to sell pretty quickly.  They are a steal in the mid-$3000 range IMO.

 

I haven’t heard a SIT-4 or -5 but I bet they are also glorious.

No problem driving the music and a finesse that no Class D amp really can do.

@hilde45 The only way for this statement to make sense would be if you’d heard every class D amp made. I’m guessing that isn’t the case?

That’s right, Ralph. You’ve got me. (Incidentally, you don’t really want to say my statement doesn’t "make sense," right? It makes perfect sense. The problem is that I am overgeneralizing. But it makes sense. If we’re going to be precise, let’s both be precise.)

So, I’ll amend the statement by qualifying it: for any Class D amp that I have heard. Amended: Every Class A amp I have heard with my system has sounded better, overall, than every class D amp. I can name the specific amps if anyone wishes.

Reminds me of 1982/1983 when CD players first became generally available in Japan and North America.  Everyone was excited, and I kept thinking how etched, grainy, and horrible they sounded.  

Later heard a Meridian and Marantz Special Edition SE CD player, and finally bought one. Still preferred vinyl at that time, yet CD players kept getting better, smoother, more listenable. Sent a few of those to Modwright for mods back then. 

Axpona, Chicago - April 10-12, under 2 weeks away. Who wants to guess early;   

  • How many vendors will be showcasing their new Class-D amps at Axpona for the best sound rooms in 2026?

 

 

@hilde45 i thought I’d come back to the Pascal module driven Gato Audio DIA 400-S (NPM) class D integrated amp I received in February.  It has over 100 hours of playtime on it now and while it sounded fine out of the box, i think it is now performing exceptionally well.  Driving my tiny DALI Menuet SEs, it just makes them sing with very clear, unstrained, never harsh treble and pretty marvelous bass for such tiny speakers.  But the real fun was connecting them to my Joseph Audio Perspective 2 Graphene’s this weekend.  Totally transformed the speakers. Gave them that last 5-10%  musicality and harmoniousness that they had so far lacked — and for which reviewers always praise them — when driven by a very well regarded Class AB integrated amp. (This was not using the Gato’s internal streamer and dac, but rather my Stream1/Phoenix USB reclocker and LTA Aero with TungSol round plate NOS tubes that the JA normally rely on.). Never fatiguing, sibilant, shouty or harsh, regardless of volume.  (At 400 wpc, I have to be careful about not turning them up too much!). I perceived no loss of detail or dynamics compared the AB that normally drives them. I am really delighted with this little (13kg) Gato! 

It is probably unlikely you can get to audition the DIA 400-S, but if that chance does arise, I hope you take it and add here your experiences with it compared to your other amps.

Thanks again for a terrific thread and all the work that went into it!

I can’t figure out how to post a pic of the Gato DIA 400S, but it is a handsome devil to boot. If anyone is curious, here’s the link 

Gato DIA 400-S product page