Do I need an expensive digital cable?


I have been using a fairly inexpensive optical cable to connect my CD transport to my Moon 280D streamer. I was told that an SPDIFcoax cable would sound better. For an experiment I purchased an inexpensive Pangea coax cable. It didn't sound at all because its terminator ends did not fit snugly in my equipment. I consulted chatgbt who often gives me audio advice. It advised that for the short run of 1 meter, an RCA interconnect would work. It did. And sounded much better than the optical. Chatgbt said that RCA interconnect was good enough.

Now, there is a twist to this story that might make those doubters think twice. A digital cable carries packets of information that are rechecked to assure that the streamer is recieving correct information. There is the timing concern, though. But my Moon 280D has an asynchronous DAC with a clock as part of the DAC. Any information sent by my transport, whether it is clocked by the transport or not, will go through the Moon's asynchronous DAC's clock. So ;there shouldn't be a timing problem. Should there?

Can anyone make a case that I should buy a "better" coax cable?

audio-b-dog

@richardbrand 

In response, I would say that my ear has caused me to buy very wisely. I can hear things that people at audio stores can't. I don't know why or how, but I have developed a very good ear and I think that beats science any day. What's the point of science if not to point you to good sounding gear?

I happen to be writing about this now and it's a much bigger topic than you might think. At the turn of the 20th century scientists thought they had it all sussed. At the turn of the 21st century scientists are willing to admit that there is more they don't know than they do know. I'd say trust your ear over anything else when it comes to audio.

@audphile1 

You're kind of half right. When I write I have to do a lot of thinking about things that come from both my conscious and unconscious. So I often stop,  waiting for something from my unconscious. Then music lubricates the gears or fires up the synapses or however you want to think about it. Also, if I am listening to something i know well, then I don't need to give it my full attention.

In the afternoon when my brain is too tired to write, I often explore new music. Tomorrow when my wife will be gone, I will stream Robyn's new album very loud to feel my three woofers shaking the room. But I've also been exploring recordings of the violinist Patricia Kopatchinskaja and the pianist Fazil Say. I found a recording of them playing together. New recordings are almost all digital so I'll never hear them from an analogue source and my Moon 280D reproduces them quite well.

@audio-b-dog got it. I’m half right. You write when you’re unconscious. MQA is DSD and you have 3 woofers in a stereo setup. 
I’m gonna go have some coffee to stay conscious. Enjoy your weekend!

Stay engaged when you write—make sure what you’re sharing is meaningful and useful to fellow Audiogon members. Listening to “Soweto Sorrow” from “Carnet de Routes: Suite Africaine” by Aldo Romano & others can help you relax and get into the right mindset.

From my experience experimenting with higher-end cables, analog interconnects matter more than their digital counterparts. You can check with AI if you want to explore the theoretical side behind this.

Within the digital realm, I²S cables seem to matter the most. I’ve compared everything from a $5, 6-inch well-shielded I²S cable (decently made in Germany) to a DH Labs HDMI 2.1 cable and Veritas Optimus used for I²S, and the sound quality difference was night and day. However, when comparing a stock Schiit USB cable to a DH Labs Mirage, the difference in my system was barely discernible. A similar result was observed when comparing a $30, 75-ohm Mogami RCA digital cable to a $300 DH Labs D-750—the difference was subtle.

In contrast, the analog side shows much more pronounced changes. Moving from a $40 Mogami XLR interconnect to a $300 Veritas Magus resulted in a significant improvement in sound quality. Stepping up further from the Magus to the $600 Veritas Argentum R brought another level of improvement, though not as dramatic as the initial jump. It seems that R, L, and C properties, along with construction quality and cable geometry, have a much greater impact on sound in the analog domain than in the digital one.