Tube Preamp with Full Featured Phono (both MM and LOMC with loading options).


My friend has very little room in one of his systems he wants to upgrade, so a single Preamp with Full Featured Phono built in is advantageous to him.

No Tape, Streaming, DAC needed, so not too many inputs, no XLR needed. Has two TT now, with external switcher to his existing Preamp, that's ok, but two Phono Inputs would be advantageous.

I'm gonna start looking, used is fine, budget 1,500 to 2,500 USD (stretch to 2,700 if just a few hundred more gets a great find).

Remote Volume and Mute would be nice, but not that important in that system. Usually, a Remote gets you a newer used item. I'm not living with remote volume, balance, mute. He could find room for the Chase RLC-1 Remote Line Controller he has heard here many times.

That opens the door to Full Featured Vintage Tube Preamps, but that is usually only MM Phono needing an external SUT, costing more, and taking more space. I showed him my FRT-4 SUT which fits under my Turntable, he could do that.

Lots of options, his preference is a single Tube Preamp with Full Featured Phono for both MM and LOMC.

Whew!

Any help will be appreciated, thanks in advance

Elliott

 

elliottbnewcombjr

Thanks for the ideas

I went thru hifishark, took quite a while, but I like learning about tube preamps

Here’s what I found on hifishark, in descending price

Rogue RP-5 Tube/Hybrid Preamp with full featured MM/MC Phono

 

Internal dip switches for 30-50-75-100-230-300-1000-47k ohms resistance settings. 

 

Your nova, 38 ohm coil,  ideally wants to see 380 ohms, but that stays upstairs, just make sure any new cartridge, internal impedance of it's coil ____ x 10 = _____ is covered.

 

Remote uniquely has volume/balance/mute/ ....

 

a bit over your budget, 2,700 it's been listed for 88 days, he might accept an offer.

 

https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650274480-rogue-audio-rp-5-tube-hybrid-preamp-with-factory-upgrades/images/5976691/

 

https://rogueaudio.com/manuals/RP-5%20combined%203-22.pdf

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Here's a Luxman CL-35 asking 1,700., 

 

old, restored, you change the little transformers in the back, left side, for your particular MC cartridge, not very flexible, no remote ....

 

https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650277114-luxman-cl35-mkiii/

 

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VTL TL-5.5, 1,00 + sip and tax ...

 

https://www.vtl.com/products/preamplifiers/tl-5-5-series-ii-signature-preamplifier/

 

has remote, seems you can buy and add a nice phono card for both MM and MC, ask VTL about that first.

 

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Van Alstine Fet Valve CFR preamplifier, 1,650,\

 

https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650293377-van-alstine-fet-valve-all-tube-preamp/ 

 

no phono but phono is +379. option when ordering new.

https://avahifi.com/collections/preamplifiers/products/fet-valve-cfr-preamplifier?variant=5706110992414

 

 

I called, left a message, can it be added in the field, or must it go back to the factory?

 

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ROGUE AUDIO RP-1 Tube Preamp/phono, 1.500

phono same as the RP-5 above for 2,700

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VINCENT SA- T7 TUBE PRE AMP , German made, 1,500

 

no phono, need to add sep phono for both MM and MC

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/277771580933?mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5338381866&toolid=10001&customid=bb30f786-1a4c-11f1-88de-313333626662

 

review 

"Summary

No matter the genre or medium, the Vincent SA-T7 MK Tube Stereo Preamplifier (USD 3500) is an excellent partner and now adds Bluetooth streaming for a full-function component. German engineering and manufacture, lovely sound at a reasonable price. As such, it should be on all your audition lists if you’re looking for a sub-$5000 preamplifier."

 

from AI (verify) (has remote, DAC, Bluetooth

 

"SA-T7 MK

  • Tubes: Uses 6SCH9P and 6SCH51P (NOS) tubes, with one 85A2 tube. 
  • Features: Includes a built-in PCM 5102-based DAC (24-bit/192 kHz), Bluetooth 5.0, and multiple analog/digital inputs (6x RCA, 1x Optical, 1x Coaxial). 
  • Outputs: 2x RCA pre-outs, 1x RCA record out, and 2x 3.5 mm power control jacks. 
  • Price$3,499 (compared to $3,995 for the Diamond edition).

Key Features Across Models

  • Vimala Power Supply Coupling: A proprietary module named after the Sanskrit word for "pure, transparent, clear," ensuring ultra-low noise and high purity in signal transmission. 
  • Tone Controls: Adjustable treble and bass with a bypass option for pure signal path. 
  • Output Options: 50-ohm or 600-ohm output impedance selection for optimal cable matching.
  • Remote Control: Includes a slim, functional remote for input selection, volume, and mute.
  • No Headphone Output or Home Theater Bypass: Requires an external headphone amp or separate system integration. "

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Conrad Johnson PV8, MM & HOMC Phono Only, 1,200, (add SUT for LOMC)

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/376635695233?mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5338381866&toolid=10001&customid=11c32194-1a4f-11f1-a959-346161666461

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another Luxman CL35II, 1,200

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/376996765201?mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5338381866&toolid=10001&customid=3f8ad706-1a50-11f1-b7ea-313333626662

 

at transformers in the rear sockets for a specific MC. two phono input, either two MM or 1 MM and 1 MC

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Melos 900. (my friend Arne had one for years), internal switches for MM and MC

Arne might sell his, he will think about it.

 

https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649833487-melos-ma222b-tube-preamp/

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this Melos, 1,200 says MM/MC Phono, must be internal jumpers, either MM or LOMC, only one phono in

 

https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649495011-melos-ma-222-tube-preamplifier/

 

Elliot, You asked the question.  Not much need to tell us the answers that you ferreted out, but interesting nonetheless.  A word of caution re Melos. They are prone to break and the business went under due to malfeasance some years ago. Since they’re like any other preamp, a mix of the usual parts, I assume someone out there can fix them, but maybe it would be wise to locate a repair person before purchase of a unit. I guess your friend is either fortunate or knowledgeable enough to do his own repairs.

Rogue RP-1, RP-5 

I had both. You need to spend $1000 on an outboard phono stage to beat the built in section in rogue. 

@lewm 

I always assume others are following and might benefit, and comments from members about what I found are welcome.

I was never impressed with my friends Melos, the switches seemed very lightweight, flimsy. I think originally he liked that it was local NJ but he hasn't used it in years.

@audiophile. 

thanks for your knowledge, I've never seen or heard a Rogue.

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