@devinplombier that definitely is a worrisome scenario 
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I would have gotten a pair of ATCs already but the poor room acoustics give me major pause. I have a pair of Acoustic Energy AE1 Actives that are pulled ~2' from rear and side walls, and I still have imaging issues. Even in my best listening position I have a wall behind my right ear, and open space behind my left ear (due to the L shaped room dimensions). Because of that, I had to push the right speaker ~5 inches closer to the front wall than the left speaker, and toe it in extra to minimize the reflection behind my right ear all in order to get a properly placed center image. That's why I am thinking really hard about the cardioid design. I doubt it will fix the issues, but at least it will help. Thoughts on whether this room is just a lost cause or the cardioid designs could be the ticket?
@sfhollis can you please reach out to me directly to discuss your used speakers? See my ad on USAM:
https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650297819-dutch-amp-dutch-8c/
For those that have heard Dutch & Dutch 8c..
For those that have heard the Dutch and Dutch 8c speakers, Are they more clinical sterile monitor sound or great musical speakers? Also, they have DSP to improve room acoustics correct?
The reason I ask this is because I was considering upgrading my integrated amp and speakers to improve the sound in my apartment living room which is about 14'x14'. I thought by the time & cost for me to improve my integrated amp and speakers, I may be within a couple grand of getting some powered speakers like the D&D 8c that I could run off of my BS node 2i streamer since I stream all my music. ( I do have an old separate parasound dac, But let's remove that from the equation.).
Does anybody here see a synergistic combination of used items for sale (integrated amp and speakers) that would provide a better value and sound for an apartment system to stream music on?
Oh! My current system is a Yamaha A-S500 and Acoustic Energy Aegis 3 speakers. [I don't have/use a sub. It would just annoy apartment neighbors].
(and blusound node 2i, parasound zdac, etc)
I stream spotify premium for my listening,
[but do have a collection of flac files on hard drive (nas) that isn't even used anymore].
Thanks for your thoughts and input about the D&D 8c or other options.
I previously had Revel f208 but they overpowered the room and had a very "dry" bass. Something with a musical size/power less than the f208 and better sound than the AE Aegis3 would probably be ideal for my listening volume and neighbor's tolerance. Thanks!
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At the end of the day, the room you have is the room you have and speakers can only do so much. Room correction and room treatments are your friends. 8c is said to be designed to work close to walls, plus it comes with room correction; so there's that. For what it's worth, I auditioned 8c in a terrible-looking room, it was an attic dormer as a matter of fact. DSP had been set up remotely by the factory. The speakers sounded great. Neumann has MA1 and Genelec has GLM, but ATC does not offer DSP as far as I know.
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Thank you, @devinplombier ! |
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