ZYX carbon fibre stylus vs boron


Haven't heard them but curious as to how they sound ... want to hear from owners and your opinions on sound quality ... thanks

jpena31

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I agree the purpose of the cantilever and the stylus are two different integral pieces to a sound profile ,,, dampers and coils [copper , silver and gold  and plated ] and magnets , have the rest . With ZYX they've only paired CF with micro ridge stylus , maybe if they would use a shibata or line contact  their sound could give a variety of sound profiles ??  

ZYX CF stylus are suppose to be the most ridged cantilevers .here's from a PT Audio post  ,  on the ZYX ULTIMATE AIRY X

 “The carbon cantilever gives us the widest frequency range and a superior tracking performance. A further major benefit is that the mechanical sound signal picked up at the stylus can travel through to the coil in a straight and direct fashion by way of the 1000 pieces of mechanical carbon lines. This ensures the reflected, repeated or modulated mechanical sound signals are completely absent.”

 

There is evidences that can be read that are able to show materials have properties that enables amplitude of certain frequencies to be transferred with an improved efficiency. 

The following is a summary of the properties offered by Boron.

High-Frequency Performance: Boron’s extremely high stiffness (roughly 3-4 times higher than aluminum) ensures that the resonant frequency of the cantilever system occurs between 14kHz and 19kHz for solid rods, and often extends above 22kHz to 50kHz for tube designs. This results in improved high-frequency extension and tracking without the harshness often found in lower-cost, high-mass designs.

Sonic Profile: Boron is known for offering a detailed sound with excellent, extended high-frequency reach that remains, to a point "easy on the ear"

Carbon Fibre as a Cantilever is with a Patent from Sony.

It is thought AT Cart’s have used the material, Nagoaka and Benz have used the Material and Miyajima has the material used as a nano-tube contained in a thin surround.

Cart’s have used CF as a Cantilever to as far back near the 2000’s.

I not too long ago fell for Beryllium as the Cantilever Material, and when doing ’Immediate’ exchanges between Cart’s with differing Cantilevers but similarities in  overall design, I am remaining very impressed over Boron and Gemstone alternatives. Micro Detail and Detail in general from the Track being used are more prominent with Beryllium in use. This as a assessment is unanimous across all who are supplying Cart’s and present hearing the differences.   

Jpena, ZYX is stating their rationale for using a CF cantilever (not "stylus", as I am sure you know).  If that's what their data tell them, I am certainly in no position to refute it.  As end users, it is left to us whether we individually prefer a CF cantilever to some other metal cantilever.  For the user, that is all that counts.  I have not heard the ZYX with CF cantilever yet.

Relating to CF, it has been stated "Miyajima has the material used as a nano-tube contained in a thin surround."

This is a interesting option for the Type of CF selected, as the material produced as a Nano-Tube is an Allotrope, offering purity like other Elements used successfully for Cantilevers.

Think of a Wire or a Duct for Fibre Optics. The 20 micron diameter nano-tubes are assembled in a 1-3 micron thick wall housing, producing a Porous Rod / Duct. Diameter variances of the Outside Diameters is proven achievable. 0.2mm OD becomes a Diameter lending itself for mounting a Stylus.

The nano-tube is quite different to typical CF Tows, as it is not a bonded crystalline structure to increase the length, with a structure that is granular. Nano-tubes Carbon Atoms forming the structure.

The nano-tube is very attractive as a material for the structural/rigidity properties, as well as the conduit to transfer energies.

The Graphene Nano-tube could easily be one that makes the Carbon Allotrope Diamond in the Solod Form, work hard for its place, for being Sonically Superior.

Graphene is the Element that started the race for forming a1 micron layer of atoms to be exploited as a material and converted into other forms.

Boron and Beryllium have also now joined the race. Nano-Tubes are a much improved sustainable method for creating a Rod, on this case a Porous Rod.

I can't help myself, I see the future of Vinyl Replay being the domain of the Nano-Tube.

I can see myself, with a Nano-tube Cantilever produced with the Beryllium,  Carbon, and Boron Nano-tube as the design - Why Not.

There will be industries seeing the Value in the mixing the materials, so it will at some point down the road become realised. Then it will be a case of a Third Party Cartridge Service being able to purchase a shard of the material with a useful OD.           

Was just thinking the other day that, since we are told that all the cantilever/styli for all cartridges are manufactured by one of two or maybe three different companies, who makes CF cantilevers? And are all of them from the same source and therefore internally identical?  This in part addresses the issue raised by Pindac re variations on how a CF cantilever might be made.  If only one company is making them, we cannot expect competition to make them better or even different from one another according to cartridge brand.