SQ Comparison of 3 streamers


Do you concur these assessments if you were the owner?

SQ Comparison: Eversolo T8 vs Innuos Zen Mk3 vs Volumio Rivo Plus

Feature Eversolo T8 Innuos Zen Mk3 Volumio Rivo Plus
Tonal Balance Slightly warm, musical Neutral, reference Neutral-warm, slightly lush
Midrange Lush, expressive Transparent, accurate Smooth and natural, slightly forward
Bass Tight, controlled Tight, maybe leaner Solid, full-bodied, a bit warmer than Zen
Detail Retrieval High, smooth Very high, analytical High, clear
Dynamics Natural, engaging Precise, accurate Great, rhythmic and musical
Soundstage Imaging Spacious, slightly forward; enveloping Very wide and deep; highly precise Wide, deep, more relaxed
Overall Impression Engaging & musical Neutral & resolving Balanced, musical, and slightly “polished”
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@dtapo  My system: 

Rivo+ via USB 

Harmony uDDC reclocker with SMSL master clock

Denafrips Pontus 15th

Ladder Bach SS Preamp

Orchard Audio Strarkrimson Ultra

Buchardt E-50

fully balanced system using XLR

A great system. I really like your digital front-end / DAC setup. The preamp is top choice as well. I heard the Orchard Starkrimson amp at this FL audio show—very impressive. The bass is solid, nimble and well controlled. I enjoyed the Buchardt S400 II in my second rig, and the E-50 is in the next level.

How does the SMSL G1 help with a micro DDC? I know it has a better OCXO 10MHz clock inside, but since that clock is not a multiple of the word clock for a Denafrips DAC (mathematically), I wonder whether it delivers significantly better sound than the DDC alone.  Thanks.

I forgot to mention that the SMSL master clock is primarily used with the SMSL CD transport. It helps with CD playback- smoother and more refined treble. In general, the reclocker helps the DAC sound fuller and smoother, but I'm not sure if the master clock helps the streamer.

@dtapo 

I get no fatigue listening to the Rivo+. I read with great interest the SQ difference between Qobuz connect and Volumio OS. I find the same, that Volumio sounds richer and more fleshed out tonally than QC. The bass has more weight as well. I have no idea why. 

I totally agree with you.  With the Rivo+ and a LPS using Qobuz, I find that Volumio gives me  a tad more bass weight than the Qobuz Connect, but, I still use both since the differences are minor in my system. 

Figured I’d follow up from my earlier post about trying the Rivo+ vs RS130. This is a post from another topic but I covers my thoughts:

 

I currently have the RS130. I've been curious of the Volumio Rivo+ based on the stellar reviews and I'm not tied to the display on the RS130. If the Rivo+ sounds as good I'd sell the RS130. So I acquired a Rivo+ with Teddy Pardo LPS and used it the past couple of weeks. I was also curious if I could hear a difference in streamers as I feel the streamer and dac have a smaller influence on the sound of a system compared to the amp, preamp, speakers and listening room. Anyway, the Rivo+ has a very open transparent sound. It has a bit of a forward presentation and sounds very good. I did notice a softening of the leading edges of lower frequencies. I could tell because when I started listening I had to double check that my RELs were back on (I turn them off when changing components around). They were on but I wasn't getting the bass impact I got from the RS130. Now that I've put the RS130 back in it sounds a bit more refined to me. The Rivo+ does light up every detail which gives it that transparent open sound, but I think that it also brings things forward in a way that slightly flattens the soundstage. The R130 sounds deeper and just as resolving, but the sounds that are supposed to sound further away and slightly softer do sound further away, giving the music more scale. Now, I think most people would be perfectly happy with either streamer. I didn't feel like the music was any less enjoyable on the Rivo+ than the 130, just a slightly different presentation. The main reason I'm keeping the 130 vs the Rivo+ is because my wife does like the display on the 130. And, when my wife and I listen to music we both stream from our phones and "DJ" back and forth. She likes Tidal's app because she knows it, even though with the 130 we're just using Airplay as it doesn't do Tidal Connect. I use Roon. The reason I'm mentioning this is when we "DJ" back and forth, a few times the Rivo+ would disappear from our phones once I connected to Roon, so my wife couldn't take control again without rebooting the device. Maybe its something we're doing but its a dealbreaker as my wife's enjoyment of our system is at one of highest priorities. Even if something sounds better, if she doesn't like it or like using it I move on. Sometimes she comes around to liking something she didn't initially like but I'd rather have her listen with me and enjoy it. Based on that, I'm keeping the 130 and will be selling the Rivo+ and LPS, but I do recommend the Rivo+ as for the money it sounds excellent. And, after going back and forth, I still think the influence of the streamer and dac in a system are not nearly as strong as the room, speakers, amp and preamp.