2-Part Help Needed


I’m hoping this august audiophile community can help me. 

For many years now, I’ve really enjoyed listening to music portrayed from my PrimaLuna Prologue Classic CD player (not the earlier Prologue Eight) through a PrimaLuna Dialogue HP Premium integrated amp and Joseph Audio (pre-graphene) speakers. It offers a subtly unique sound that I enjoy as much as I do music from streaming (Rose 150b) or analogue (Linn Sondek LP12). 

 

Unfortunately, the CD player failed last week. It loads a CD, reads it, and displays number of tracks & total play time; but will not play any tracks. 

 

I contacted Upscale Audio (The PrimaLuna US distributor) for advice on how to repair my beloved CD player. Unfortunately, they were unable to help me saying they no longer repaired this vintage ~2012 CD player and specifically “We are unaware of a shop to recommend. The reason we stopped was because the Laser Mechanism was hard to get, and sometimes the repair didn't last.”

 

1st Help Needed: Can anyone recommend a repair path forward, repair shop point of contact, etc…? I really don’t want to have an expensive 25 lb boat anchor.  

 

Feel free to stop reading here if you don’t want to go down the rabbit hole with me if Help Needed #1 doesn’t bear fruit. 

 

2nd Help Needed:  This is a path I really don’t want to go down and one I hesitate to even ask because it opens 3 cans of worms!  If there is no practical way on gods green earth the repair my current CD player; what would be a good current production affordable replacement CD player?

   - Can of worms #1:  should I just buy a CD transport and use the Rose 150b DAC or an all in one player/DAC?

   - Can of worms #2: I’m going to the upcoming Axpona after which I plan to replace my PrimaLuna integrated amp. Right now the leading candidate is to replace with a Pass Labs INT-60 integrated to take advantage of its 30 w/ch Class A bias and high (compared to the Primaluna amp) damping factor to achieve a more natural sound, note attack/decay, and tighter bass. 

   - Can of Worms #3:  Budget!!  I will already be stretching a retirees budget (and wife’s loving support of my audio obsession) to purchase a new/used integrated amp. Buying a CD player was not in the plan so if I do need to go down this path, I need to make a very cost effective purchase. Used is perfectly ok. 
 

Thank you in advance for any advise you are willing to share (especially in regards to Help Needed #1. 

ezstreams

I asked for help here when searching

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/better-cd-sound-the-search

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/sony-sacd-player-scd-xa5400es-yay-or-nay

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/sacd-players-models-with-dsd-processor-used-and-new-not-dsd-conver

there’s no risk, crutchfield has 60 day returns, try it,

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_164CDC34/Integra-CDC-3-4.html

It was the dual Wolfson processors that made me give it a try, I’m so glad I did.

you will be very pleasantly surprised by it’s sound, the fact that it is so inexpensive and also the ease of a changer is kind of absurd.

I play mine thru a Vintage tube preamp upstairs, a Vintage SS receiver downstairs 

my 1st impressions were

"Oh Happy Day,

Integra CDC-3.4 6 disc changer arrived, like new, perfect, and, despite my ’doubtful’ expectation bias:

FINALLY one that sounds preferable to my Sony. I highly recommend the sound of this with it’s dual Wolfson processors and all of Onkyo/Integra’s tricks applied.

How to describe the difference: Like my AT33PTG/II cartridge, compared to any cartridge with less tight channel balance, EVERYTHING is a speck more distinct. Not bright, not sharp, a very thin veil removed allowing refined clarity. Imaging is the same width, but within that, main vocal, backup singers, specific musicians, simultaneously more precise.

A small improvement to EVERYTHING, is a LOT!!!"

 

It might be worth trying to clean the laser lens to see if that is the problem. Give the age of the unit it is probably dead, but cleaning is easy. There is plenty of info online on how to do this.

if not risk adverse, if in a different budget, get thee an even older unit, find one with known low hours of play (lasers get weak eventually)

Absolutely LOVE this Sony SACD/CD Player SCD-xa5400ES

ALL CDs sound better, first 2 comparisons: equal to LP

SACD without intermediate PCM conversion: Awesome, now I know what some have been hearing. 

..............................

If someone you let go regrettably used you as a job reference, and you get a call, you respond "I cannot say enough good things about ..."

I truly cannot say enough good things about this Sony SCD-xa5400es.

Very familiar, very revealing content, ALL CDs, all SACDs: ALL OBVIOUSLY, SURPRISINGLY BETTER. Not Preferred, BETTER!

Andreas Vollenweider’s White Winds; sounds of the Eurythmics Underground Train; Distinction of ’No More Tears’ duet by Barbra Streisand and Donna Summer; Richard Burton and the Martian Death Rays in Jeff Wayne’s War of the Worlds; ah, there’s a second mandolin behind Kate Wolf’s guitar; the distinction of different string types of the 3 guitars on Friday Night in San Francisco; and finally, what SACD people who have been hearing that I never heard properly until now.

FUNDAMENTALS. I think there is a tighter, firmer, more solid, ... start to the fundamental of Each and Every Note. Improved overtones, volume and time decay all follow that BETTER start. I have never heard a CD sound so good anywhere.

The 3 guitars on Friday Night in San Francisco, my favorite music to refine my cartridge’s anti-skate. I am very very familiar, love this music. I could not imagine the added degree of genuine realism this player got out of a standard CD.

I am sooooo glad I kept going on the DSD/no pcm conversion search, the unexpected big win here is the redbook cd output from it’s 8x oversampling filter.

SACD. Among others I have a series of Oscar Peterson performances, ’exclusively for my friends’. my prior listening conclusion was ’lower noise floor’, eh, I’m not spending a lot more for that. OH holy crap, first one I tried, Mellow Mood SACD, just landed in the room.

You know how a visitor says, "sounds like they are right there" and you know your system, you know it’s great, but no, right there it is not. This seemed like Oscar was playing my Uncle Johnnie’s piano right there!

I can keep slobbering, or go listen. Bye!

EVERYONE: get thee an xa5400es!!!

Yes clean the laser with a q tip no solution as it can damage it. Has worked for me in past.have 20 spinners it's a job keeping them going.enjoy the music

I bought a Smsl PL200T, list $500, to replace my Esoteric dv50. Tech has moved along in the last 23 years and I am blissfully reunited with my 4000 cd's. It sounds outstanding being fed to my Benchmark DAC3B, is pretty to look at, and fun to use. Recommended.