Streamer and Connection Questions


I'm looking at a new DAC that requires a USB connection. Currently, I have a Grimm MU1 streamer, which I really love; however, it only has SPDIF or AES output to my Nagra Tube DAC for the connection. Obviously, Grimm is set up for Roon. So, my questions are:

  • Does anyone have experience with the Aurender N30SA?
  • Although I am a Roon lover,  should I bite the bullet and move over to the Conductor app. Although I am aware that this unit uses Roon, I have been informed that Roon lowers the SQ. 
  • I wouldn't be able to stream multiple playbacks simultaneously with the Aurender app, but I do enjoy using my Grimm as a whole house streamer, using music in almost every room.

Since I have a lifetime subscription to Roon, I could use the Aurender exclusively in my primary setup and keep the Grimm for the rest of the house.

Looking for some insights.

Thanks!

woots

@woots Do you have any option to spend some time with an Aurender device so you can get a feet for Conductor yourself? Maybe a dealer showroom, or loaner unit, or friend who runs Aurender in their system? It doesn't necessarily have to be the N30SA, just any Aurender at all so you can try out the controls. If there's a dealer you would be using for the N30SA, maybe see if they have an N150 you can borrow to get a feel for it. To me that really is the key here and more important even than the SQ factor. 

@996turbo911 yes, I have a dealer where I can play around with it.  One reason for the Aurender is that you can connect it directly with Apps like Qobuz or through Roon without changing any connections. I was told better SQ through App but with the Roon connection I can stream anywhere in house like with my Grimm MU1.  
 

@woots The direct connection of native apps is nice to have but still variable for results imho. I use a bunch of streaming services (don't ask why, I'm dumb). I love Qobuz for SQ but their app is by far my least favorite. Tidal is way better to use, or at least more compatible with my brain. 

When I had a Lumin transport, I thought Roon was at least equal or maybe better in SQ compared to using Tidal Connect directly. When I had a Naim streamer, Tidal Connect was clearly superior to running it through Roon. So the SQ part really does seem case by case to me. And that's separate from the user interface where to me Roon is always top choice. 

@woots

few things to consider…

1. Grimm is optimized for Roon.

2. Roon is a significantly better UI than the Aurender’s Conductor

3. With Aurender Roon will not sound as good as the using the Aurender Conductor. Means for critical listening you will use Conductor 

4. If you want separates, all you need is a top notch DAC to connect your MU1 to via AES cable 

5. if you want a top flight all in one, try Grimm MU2. It’s optimized for Roon and has an amazing DAC. 
 

Qobuz Connect is an option with Aurender but again the UI is not nearly as goos as Roon and with a Roon optimized unit like Grimm you really won’t benefit from it 

That’s my $0.02