Streaming Is To Audio What Red Plastic Cups Are To Wine


Unpacking and going through my vinyl collection, it occurs to me that vinyl is it, whereas streaming is Audio’s red plastic cup.

The best wines taste low-shelf in the red plastic cup. Yes, the red plastic cup is cheap and convenient, just like streaming. Wine should feel the same regardless of the vessel - it’s the same wine - but it does not. So should music - but it does not. Streamed music may sound (nearly) as good as vinyl, but it feels... disposable. Vinyl does not. Vinyl is the thing. Vinyl is it! Just my opinion, of course.

devinplombier

@antigrunge2 

Since the ‘90s all vinyl has been digitally recorded. How replaying it in the analogue domain is supposed to improve on the sound quality remains this OP’s secret.

That’s a complete non sequitur. Nobody said it does.

In fact, the reverse is true. It’s better to have as much of the replay chain in the digital domain as possible to reduce noise and distortion. The sound character of a vinyl record is unchanged by subsequent ADC and DAC. The really weird thing is that most systems convert digital sources back to analogue earlier than is necessary or desirable.​

In any case, the OP has repeatedly said sound quality is not the issue.

@nubiann 

No worries, I understood your comment the way you meant it 🙂 I love vinyl, but I also love and listen to other media as well

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Thank you for the kind words, they are very much appreciated. You do realize that some beg to differ though 😂

 

Since the ‘90s all vinyl has been digitally recorded. How replaying it in the analogue domain is supposed to improve on the sound quality remains this OP’s secret.

@antigrunge2 the way you pack so much falsehood and innuendo in one short, innocuous-looking sentence is just delightful!

In no particular order: 

- Neither I nor anyone have ever said that 

- It’s not true

- Whether recording digitally even makes a difference in sound quality per se is open debate. Let’s not conflate regrettable recording / mastering practices aimed at making music "listenable" on car radios and earbuds with digital; the only thing the two have in common is the time period in which they appeared, and studios had plenty of analog-based sound processors available to them back in the day.

- The mere act of playing a recording through a combination of vinyl platter and electromechanical device (cartridge) can in and of itself impart a certain sound signature.

- I did not start this thread to discuss the sound quality of vinyl as compared with other media’s.

 

rbstehno I'd say and especially so twenty years ago, CD rips werent and aren't better, it would be the playback chain that was or is.There weren't many software solutions that ripped bit perfectly and CD players could not in themsleves produce bit perfect extraction. If you are happy with your final solution, that's great but so much has changed. I would urge you to re-appraise just a little you could be denying yourself of so much pleasure.

Streaming has its place and I have a very highly respected one, along with what I would consider to be a great turntable and an equally competent CD player (albeit vintage) but comparing form function and sonic perfomance is simply pointless rabbit hole activity. Fortunately, I have now all but grown out of it.  Instead I now celebrate difference. Sometimes I like the vinyl experience sometimes CD although I do weed out as much of the dynamically compressed rubbish as I can, there are always buyers who couldn't care less but I  do and I suspect many here with highy resolving systems know just how horrible these things can sound to the extent that it often ruined the music.

Streaming often amazes me and disappoints me in equal measure but its USP justfies a place in my set up as it often sets me on a wonderful journey of discovery.

Not trying to change your mind, I would support 100% your right to your opinon but I wanted to contrast yours with mine, more to underline the truth that there is no right or wrong answer, just the one that works for each and every one of us.

I concur with this opinion about the OP ..

yes

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