What innovative, unconventional cartridge designs can you recommend?


Most cartridges have a stylus and cantilever where the transducer (magnet, iron or coil) sits on the far end of the cantilever.  What other designs are there?

I am mindful of two designs which put the business end right on top of the stylus.  The first is the moving coil (MC) Audio Technica AT-ART1000 which places two tiny coils, each 0.9-mm diameter, with eight turns of wire directly above the stylus.  Australian price is about AUD-7000 and there apparently is a newer model, slightly less exxe. the ART1000X.  This has square coils for a bit more output, and threaded mounting holes.

A downside is that stylus replacement involves a factory maintenance program and the Australian website page describing this service does not exist.

Another design is optical, exemplified by DS Audio's range.  While these still need a stylus to trace the groove, the signal is produced by reading the intensity of light produced by a Light Emitting Diode (LED) hitting two sensors.  Between the LED and the sensors are two 'shades' mounted above the stylus which change the amount of light as the stylus vibrates.  These cartridges need a special "photo-stage" to replace the conventional phono-stage which is an additional expense.

Australian prices including photo-stages range from AUD-2,150 for the DS-E1 to the DS Master 3 at approximately AUD-40,800, which is a bit outside my price range!  Where is the sweet spot?

What other way-out designs are there?

richardbrand

@dover Stated " It is presumptuous to think that Ortofon is the only companies to address non linearities in magnetic fields.

@pindac Stated " this is what the Ortofon FSE does as a role in a Cartridge "

Zero suggestion from @pindac that Ortofon are the only Company addressing non linear interfaces.

@dover Stated In fact magnets themselves are non linear and generate phase issues when used in an electrical circuit, so the FSE technique may help, but it can't eliminate the fundamental non linearities induce by magnets/poles/coils." 

@pindac Stated "  this is what the Ortofon FSE does as a role in a Cartridge, which assists with keeping B field/Flux as an improved predictable. Hence, Cartridges are able to be assembled for producing more consistent Magnetic Field/Flux Interface, resulting in improved management of distortion. " 

@1100 Word Summary Stated " enhancement tools (like the Ortofon FSE)"

@dover are you not Carpet Bagging on this one, Hitch Hiking using words already used as a reshuffle.

@dover Stated " What I do notice, having travelled many times through most of Europe, is that the English are treated poorly. There are reasons for this that are obvious to those who have lived in Europe."

@pindac who deplores racism on any form asks:

" Has it been easy to identify English Nationals travelling on a British Passport as being Passport owners who are Born British and possibly Welsh - Scottish - Northern Irish or English.

Or was it British Citizens not Born British, but have a British Passport through a British Descendant - British Citizenship - British Overseas Citizen - British Protected Person. I can assure anybody, not just @dover that identifying an individual as English from this group is quite a challenge as many are certainly not solely resident in England, they are itinerant and work in all British Isles Countries, to enable them to maintain their stay in Great Britain.

With Great Britain be so Multi Cultured and being very very accommodating to other Nationals in need of Sanctuary it does seem far fetched individuals from all cultural backgrounds who are with a British Passport (whom their are multi multi millions) that class themselves as English when asked of the Country, are subject to racism when they step onto local foreign shores.

I have travelled from England to Hungary on quite a few occasions, as this is where my European Properties are based. Myself and my Family have great recollections of out time in France buying out first food to support the Journey. Belgians and the Netherland Borders are just so kind to those they see with a British Number Plated Vehicle when getting fuel and more snacks. The Germans are great and those who converse in English are keen to introduce themselves. The Austrians are so helpful when making inquiries about the directions for a nights stop off. The accommodation staff are just so kind and endearing towards their English guests, even laying on an extra early breakfast on request to enable being back on the Road early. In Hungary there has never been a experience where being noticeably British has caused a concern. In the Village where the property is, there are Magyar, Italian, Slovenian, Swiss, German, Austrian Home Owners who invite the British - English to their homes to pick their fruit and dine or have a drink with them.

It is really upsetting that @dover seems to have got caught up in a situation where racism and projection of ill will was quite noticeable towards another nationality. I hope this is not a case of 'Birds of a Certain Feather, Flocking Together'.          

 

 

@richardbrand suggested Smuggling as a viable proposition to make a living.

Using ROI as a route to Smuggle Good from the EU into GB or using the ROI Smuggle Goods out of GB is criminal and the Windsor Framework, even though quite complex, is pretty much keeping NI as a GB Trade Zone only and not a Gateway to and from the EU.

@richardbrand stated " my firm belief is that their biggest problem is the class system, especially the born-to-rule assumptions of the privileged few who are effortlessly channeled through Eton to Oxbridge and government, "

@pindac states that having been lucky to have come to know individuals who have come from humble backgrounds and worked hard at excelling into the highest echelons of employment.

It is my deducement from being exposed to a few who have not got from the education system what they dreamed should be theirs, have been showing how they resent the Education Systems where Class is seen to receive privilege.

The same resentment remains present due to their blaming others, but does not recognise their own failings for aspiring to achieve such levels of being educated. At a later time in life, their children are resented for not meeting the same aspirations of the parents, I have seen rifts yet to be reconciled.

Individuals would do better expressing gratitude for their blessings / good fortune, life is way too short to despise anything, especially your children's education achievements and if god is willing your Grandchildren's education achievements. 

I at the present time am dealing with the loss of a person who has been in my life for 42 Years and is the most admired Man I have known in person. Life is just too short, the last breath is on borrowed time, make the most of the unknown remaining time that is to be made available. 

@pindac 

richardbrand suggested Smuggling as a viable proposition to make a living

Sorry, I grew up in Hastings which was one of the original Cinque Ports set up over 900 years ago. These towns effectively had independent navies, which were deployed to support the king in exchange for the elimination of duties.  Signs of smuggling were all around, from secret hiding holes in pubs to secret tunnels.  The cliffs in Hastings are riddled with caves and tunnels used for smuggling.  Nearby Romney Marshes was renowned for dangerous bogs, which smugglers could traverse, but which stopped the Revenue Men who were chasing them.

Even in Australia, there is a smuggler's tunnel in Echuca, built to avoid Customs Duties collected between NSW and Victoria.  Nowadays, we fully support free trade.

Avoiding Customs Duties used to be a national sport, but now these have been replaced by a flat 10% Goods and Services Tax, the game is hardly worth the candle.

When rules are too stupid for words, I don't support the idiots that invented them!

 

@pindac 

You have been playing your own game with FSE.  With the extra clue that it relates to Ortofon, I can finally disclose that it is a patented technology which Ortofon call Field Stabilizing Element.  Others can decide whether it is a game changer or just a refinement!

Ortofon have interesting videos on cartridge setup and especially what variations are acceptable.