What innovative, unconventional cartridge designs can you recommend?


Most cartridges have a stylus and cantilever where the transducer (magnet, iron or coil) sits on the far end of the cantilever.  What other designs are there?

I am mindful of two designs which put the business end right on top of the stylus.  The first is the moving coil (MC) Audio Technica AT-ART1000 which places two tiny coils, each 0.9-mm diameter, with eight turns of wire directly above the stylus.  Australian price is about AUD-7000 and there apparently is a newer model, slightly less exxe. the ART1000X.  This has square coils for a bit more output, and threaded mounting holes.

A downside is that stylus replacement involves a factory maintenance program and the Australian website page describing this service does not exist.

Another design is optical, exemplified by DS Audio's range.  While these still need a stylus to trace the groove, the signal is produced by reading the intensity of light produced by a Light Emitting Diode (LED) hitting two sensors.  Between the LED and the sensors are two 'shades' mounted above the stylus which change the amount of light as the stylus vibrates.  These cartridges need a special "photo-stage" to replace the conventional phono-stage which is an additional expense.

Australian prices including photo-stages range from AUD-2,150 for the DS-E1 to the DS Master 3 at approximately AUD-40,800, which is a bit outside my price range!  Where is the sweet spot?

What other way-out designs are there?

richardbrand

@dogberry 

Decca called the metal an ’armature’ and so should we

Terminology so often trips us up!

When I mention "current models" I mean those that are manufactured and available today.  Some could interpret it to mean those that produce a current.  And so it goes.

Armature seems to have two meanings - the structure that holds coils in an electric motor, or a skeleton-like structure on which things can be affixed.

Cantilever is much closer in my opinion:  a beam anchored at only one end. I suggested the Decca structure is a double cantilever because at the bend, the vertical bit cantilevers from the horizontal bit, which cantilevers like a springboard from the clamp plates.

In the drawings I referenced, the same structure is sometimes labelled a cantilever and sometimes an armature.

The names don't affect how the thing works smiley

Well, Decca-type cartridges are manufactured today, so perhaps we might call them current?

As for armature versus cantilever, there are obvious physical differences between a flat metallic plate and a rod (tubular or crystalline). I don't see a good reason for anyone to have a semantic argument about them.

@dogberry 

The opening monologue of this topic was

 

Most cartridges have a stylus and cantilever where the transducer (magnet, iron or coil) sits on the far end of the cantilever.  What other designs are there?

I am mindful of two designs which put the business end right on top of the stylus

So I think we are in violent agreement!  Most contributions here have been extremely useful and informative, including yours of course.

I made my buying decision after starting this thread and as you so aptly point out, am now in a proleptic state (had to look that up, too) surprise

@dogberry 

there are obvious physical differences between a flat metallic plate and a rod (tubular or crystalline)

Surely Decca's structure is a bit of each!

From a marketing standpoint, I believe Decca created unique selling propositions by downplaying cantilever and damping.

And now the origin story of DS Audio, which can be found at DS Audio.

Tetsuaki Aoyagi was finishing university and was pondering his future.  He decided he "wanted to create a unique product that would bring joy to people" and therefore should start a company.  Meantime he was working for his dad's company and one day, a consultant played him Michael Jackson's Thriller on vinyl, through a 40-year-old Toshiba optical cartridge. These had faded from the market, but the next day he started to design a modern version to “create something new that brings joy to people”.

So DS Audio became a subsidiary of dad's Digital Stream Corporation, which already manufactured advanced optical systems.  If only we could all choose our parents!