Jay's rooms almost done - getting nervous


I have complete faith these rooms are going to be game changing.  I can't wait to see the reference equipment. I don't understand new floors, they are so pretty all lacqered up and everything, and really cool surface designs. if you haven't seen you should take a look.  Hope no one slips and falls and don't you need a rug.

But that's not why I'm nervous, I haven't gotten my invitation to the barbecue.  I have amazing things planned that I can bring.  I know Jay's got a lot of things on his mind and he hasn't forgotten about me.

 

 

 

 

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Let me clarify what I was trying to say earlier this morning.  Jay is a YouTube sensation no doubt. He's earned that title and he has a great show. My first music room was in my home gym and a prominent hifi dealer here in Toronto criticized my room because of the 4 large patio doors and concrete floor. Fact is it was too alive but it's all I had available to me at the time. Regardless, I think that form should follow function and to me acoustics should be incorporated into the inception of the design rather than dealing with it afterwards. Tweaking things here and there are normal, but in a room with the primary function being music, acoustics should be part of the design process.

Acoustics is very hard to predict.  A living room with furniture scattered around is probably the best acoustical environment you could possibly have with a nice system. Plenty of absorption and diffusion going on and if you have a bookcase all the better. I think what Jay is doing is very high risk and it's unclear what's gonna happen.

I think people go nuts with all the acoustical treatments and making the room look real pretty with cute diffuser panels up on the wall behind the speakers that questionably don’t do much of anything the people can hear unless you do the entire wall with diffuser panels which is probably the better approach. Sure a few absorption panels scattered about makes sense but as far as all the scientific positioning that’s recommended it’s all bunk. Most people have furniture in their rooms and none of the acoustical design experts don’t even know about this. their room consists of a single chair in front of a system with all kinds of acoustical panels which is not the typical way most people enjoy their systems.

Jay should get some serious professional consultation for his room. And I happen to know an exceptional acoustic engineer. If I were building a dedicated listening room, Russ Berger is the one person I would consult. He is the ultimate professional in the field of acoustics. I was fortunate to meet him during a vacation in which we spent a week on the same liveaboard dive charter. He is an extraordinary human being and you will know it when you meet him. 

Also, Russ Berger's company (Russ Berger Design Group) is in Dallas Texas, so it should be convenient for Jay.

 

https://rbdg.com/

 

 

Most people think that acoustics consist only of a neutral process (buying panels)  to let the gear speak...Jay think this as most people do....

It is why i said that most people had no idea of acoustics, especially about small room ...

Acoustics is the main factor in audio, the gear is a secondar6y artefact, important for sure but with no acoustics  active control (mechanical+DSP +psycho-acoustics) any piece of gear at any price will underperform at a great extent ...

I think Jay did not consulted an architectural acoustician because it cost too much if we add this to all the rest of cost of his beautiful renovation indeed... Also his room must be designed to sell gear... it must not be too different room from his customer room...it cannot be a dedicated acoustic architectural room  like mike Lavigne for example...I can be wrong here, i did not know his budget anyway...  smiley

Between the TOP acoustic architecture possible in the world  and a living room there exist  a vast distribution of possibilities...Jay’s actual room is one and will resemble to many of his customers room...

Esthetic here must play a role... I co0ngratulate him for his two rooms ... I like them ...

but many here had beautiful dedicated rooms too ...

 Are they perfect ?

No...

 Are they optimal ?

A few are without doubt... We must be there to evaluate....

One thing is certain : Us, who are not sellers, we must pick a  specific synergetical gear system and then create a dedicated room around it to elevate it to his peak working level... At any price nevermind our budget, the rule dont change...

Jay will use his rooms to sell products...it is a bit a different situation...

I wish him luck because he invested so much...

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