Jay's rooms almost done - getting nervous

@jays_audio_lab so the reverberation doesn't bother you and just because Jay is a YouTube sensation which respectfully he is having earned the title. But this doesn't mean that just because someone spends $100,000 in interior finishes it doesn't mean his space is better than the other guy having spent less of acoustics were not addressed during the build and design process. There are actial engineers who specialize in this.  So are you undermining the role of an actual engineer? Sounds like you know better so enlighten us,  why is Jay's room an acoustic anomaly?

I am not there in the Jay’s room...

Nobody is...

What i know for sure is most people had their system in their living room with a few panels...

This does not means their sound experience will be bad; this means their sound experience will be under the peak potential working of their system/room...

Most people ignore that small room acoustic is at least  as complex problem to solve than great hall acoustic if not more complex...

They ignore that  DSP and mechanical control of the room as well as psycho-acoustics measures are necessary if they want a maximal TOP soundfield experience ...

They think the gear pieces makes the sound . It is false. Gear pieces only contribute.

The system/room/ears-brain is the sound experience...

Then it is possible that Jay  enjoy a better sound than most living room and correct incrementally with time the defects of his room, as any room or living room ask for optimization...( He is tied by aesthetic concern for a business though, it was not my case. if it was i could not had done it at peanuts price but with a consuming time span) 

We can ask an acoustic engineer, a reputed one, but it cost way more money...

How do i know all that ?

I did it myself . It was not perfect for sure, it takes me 2 years non stop 7 days/7  after retirement, and doing it i  had seen first seat as astounding is acoustics power...

it dwarf in effects magnitude any gear piece upgrade on any level....( it does not means that a 100 bucks amplifier beat a 10,000 bucks one read me with your thinking process )

Add to this psycho-acoustics measures which are essential for small room dedicated owner acoustics ( i did not use them because i tuned my 100 resonators distributed grids with my ears for my ears)...

Why do you think stereo listening is deficient?  and how to remedy it ?

Small room acoustics is already complex, add to this psycho-acoustics... Read about this in Dr. Choueiri articles...

By the way i wish the best to Jay, he had worked his ass very hard...

It will be his room... So ....

He is in high end business, i am in low end personal experience...

Envy or jealousy is a character deficiency...

Acoustics basics matter, not the gear budget choice ...Except for ignorant....

 

 

 

 

 

Wonder if Jay's taken out a restraining order yet...

Let me clarify what I was trying to say earlier this morning.  Jay is a YouTube sensation no doubt. He's earned that title and he has a great show. My first music room was in my home gym and a prominent hifi dealer here in Toronto criticized my room because of the 4 large patio doors and concrete floor. Fact is it was too alive but it's all I had available to me at the time. Regardless, I think that form should follow function and to me acoustics should be incorporated into the inception of the design rather than dealing with it afterwards. Tweaking things here and there are normal, but in a room with the primary function being music, acoustics should be part of the design process.

Acoustics is very hard to predict.  A living room with furniture scattered around is probably the best acoustical environment you could possibly have with a nice system. Plenty of absorption and diffusion going on and if you have a bookcase all the better. I think what Jay is doing is very high risk and it's unclear what's gonna happen.

I think people go nuts with all the acoustical treatments and making the room look real pretty with cute diffuser panels up on the wall behind the speakers that questionably don’t do much of anything the people can hear unless you do the entire wall with diffuser panels which is probably the better approach. Sure a few absorption panels scattered about makes sense but as far as all the scientific positioning that’s recommended it’s all bunk. Most people have furniture in their rooms and none of the acoustical design experts don’t even know about this. their room consists of a single chair in front of a system with all kinds of acoustical panels which is not the typical way most people enjoy their systems.