What innovative, unconventional cartridge designs can you recommend?


Most cartridges have a stylus and cantilever where the transducer (magnet, iron or coil) sits on the far end of the cantilever.  What other designs are there?

I am mindful of two designs which put the business end right on top of the stylus.  The first is the moving coil (MC) Audio Technica AT-ART1000 which places two tiny coils, each 0.9-mm diameter, with eight turns of wire directly above the stylus.  Australian price is about AUD-7000 and there apparently is a newer model, slightly less exxe. the ART1000X.  This has square coils for a bit more output, and threaded mounting holes.

A downside is that stylus replacement involves a factory maintenance program and the Australian website page describing this service does not exist.

Another design is optical, exemplified by DS Audio's range.  While these still need a stylus to trace the groove, the signal is produced by reading the intensity of light produced by a Light Emitting Diode (LED) hitting two sensors.  Between the LED and the sensors are two 'shades' mounted above the stylus which change the amount of light as the stylus vibrates.  These cartridges need a special "photo-stage" to replace the conventional phono-stage which is an additional expense.

Australian prices including photo-stages range from AUD-2,150 for the DS-E1 to the DS Master 3 at approximately AUD-40,800, which is a bit outside my price range!  Where is the sweet spot?

What other way-out designs are there?

richardbrand

Speaking from experience, the tracking ability of this cartridge is amazing. Passages that used to make me cringe because I knew distortion was coming, are now crystal clear. Rickie Lee Jones comes to mind.

@richardbrand I’m sure you know there will be some break in period for the phono stage so don’t jump to conclusions too soon. I would keep it on 24/7 and it should settle in a week or so. 
Some phono stages are designed to be as quiet and as transparent as possible. My Whest definitely falls into that category. If you recall I mentioned in one of the threads that my vinyl rig sounded like a CD. It was a combination of Clearaudio Concept table and Whest. When I got my VPI table the sound characteristics changed. No it’s not as sweet as some other phono stages but it’s not analytical per se. My buddy’s McIntosh MP100 phono stage is much sweeter sounding but not as dynamic. 
I’m wondering where the Soulnote falls sonics wise. I will be looking to do a cartridge and phono stage upgrade later this year so I’m anxiously awaiting your thoughts on your new setup. 

Approximately 50% of the OP is dedicated to DS Audio and plenty of post after are about DS Audio.

This Thread is deliberate in bringing DS Audio into the limelight.

@pindac 

You are correct, and DS Audio is certainly a legitimate and worthwhile topic within this thread.

However, it almost seems as if more attention has been lavished upon Mr. Nixie’s products than DS Audio’s, including the entirety of your 3,000,000-word penultimate thread :)

Mr. Nixie makes only three DS Audio-related products: a €800 pocket-size equalizer that appears to have sprouted an extra zero in its price, and two standalone equalizers - a SS one and a tube one.

I have auditioned none, to be clear, and his two standalone equalizers may very well deserve all the praise they’re getting from certain online forums. But his cigarette pack-sized entry-level offering can probably safely be dismissed, to the extent that it adds an extra box, an extra layer of signal conversion, an extra pair of interconnects, and an extra power supply between the DS Audio cartridge and a conventional MM phono stage that was, obviously, never designed to process the output of an optical cartridge. One is probably better off with a dedicated equalizer, whether from DS Audio or an alternate maker, but that’s just my opinion. 

 

@audphile1 

I’m sure you know there will be some break in period for the phono stage so don’t jump to conclusions too soon. I would keep it on 24/7 and it should settle in a week or so. 

SoulNote states that the electronics in the E-1 Ver2 Equalizer need an hour's warm-up to reach peak performance.  I need a lot more than that!

Anyway, it is on being warmed up as I write this.  It only consumes 28-Watts so I will leave it on unless I am away for days on end, which is most of the time.

My initial cables will not do it justice, either.  6-meters of microphone cheapo XLRs

Apart from the User Guide, the SoulNote came with a 24 page booklet entitled SoulNote High End Audio Brand which I find fascinating.

Kato, the Chief Engineer, explains that he was instructed

Make SoulNode the best audio brand in the world

To continue to quote Kato

Well, "number one in the world" was Nakazawa's favourite phrase, and while it may seem like a wild idea, I had an idea to make it happen.  We would properly explain the reasons for the "discrepancy between specifications and sound quality", which is the biggest mystery in the audio world, achieving unprecedently sound quality using methods that other manufacturers would not (or could not) use, and present it to the world.  If we could do that, I really thought we could turn the world's perception of value upside down.  I understood the reason for the discrepancy between specs and sound quality, and that is the basis of SoulNote's current design philosophy.

So here is a practicing engineer who goes on to challenge the conventional view of audio as frequency dependent.  To him (and me) it should be time dependent.