I'm not sure what "numbers basis " means. SACD does sound a bit better than Red books. Dependent on the recording, of course.
CD vs SACD in STEREO
I started to listen to SACD to enjoy the 5.1 format.
I thought SACD is exclusively used for that purpose.
Today read discussion about sound quality of new/modern/ "better" CD vs Streaming vs vinyl vs SACD, where the SACD apparently was referrung to STEREO SACD.
On a 'numbers' basis, what is the difference between CD and SACD (assume same player, etc)?
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You must be young and use SACD for Videos with 5.1, all mine are Blu-Rays. IN the Beginning, before you were born perhaps, SACD was the new great thing, using DSD rather than PCM, having 8 times the resolution, for 2 channel stereo. Most are Hybrid 2 channel discs with two layers, a CD (PCM) layer, and a SACD (DSD) layer that only players with SACD lasers could read. Some have 5.1 channel SACD layer as well, I never heard one. The most obvious difference is lower noise floor, thus the wider S/N signal to noise ratio. Backgrounds so quiet, I sometimes find them un-natural. Some players convert DSD to PCM, others read and send the DSD signal. I created these two SACD discussions here
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SACD uses the DSD audio format, which is more analogue and realistic sounding than normal PCM, except that you can't edit the files afterwards, so they are actually only useful for new copies of older tape master recordings, or 1-shot classical recordings. Both SACD and CD are optical, and therefore give reads that are galvanically isolated from noise. You can still get that noise-free original read performance by recording audio files onto a blu-ray disk. You can even record 24/192 or DSD512 sized albums on re-recordable blu-ray disks. Mine maxes out at only 25GB, but a 100GB disk size (for $100/disk) drive is available for roughly $150. Optical reads beat all other reads as source by being galvanically isolated data, it only passively reads a light return from the separately powered laser. Optical files play completely noise-free, and sound like the extroverted original recording compared to hard drive reads. After hard drives start getting noisier, but optical is too small for a permanent disk, SD cards win the storage noise-freedom award. Standard SSD's are close, and give the buffer and seek speeds of your dreams, but SD cards are slower versions, that have less noise than any other type of SSD, and give the reads the final bit of extroversion into pure original playback that makes SD cards my choice for reference original reads. Of course, all files should be played uncompressed from local drives, preferably not from mechanical, as much as they would be perfect in price, performance, and size for way more than just audio. Mechanical reads have noise added onto them, VS a SSD on the same drive port. After that, SSD's beat them easily, unfortunately my big 2TB superfast USB SSD that came next actually used more power than a SATA SSD, and then my puny USB thumb drive held the read performance crown until my research proved first that my new SD card and reader's arrival would win the read performance prize. Of course, you all have to argue that the transport's digital output port quality should come first, and you are right to be talking about optical readers for that first prize. It's just that a 1TB SD card is so much easier to work with, and I have 5 more slots open on the reader for more 1 or 2 TB SD cards. | ||||||||||||||||||
"SACD uses the DSD audio format, which is more analogue and realistic sounding than normal PCM,..." So I assume CD is PCM format, SACD is DSD format. Now I can drill down on the ’numbers’ (resolution, frequency range, signal to noise ration, etc). I am using Sony 700 (2nd system) and Oppo 103 for SACD and CD, both using HDMI output. And here is what smartypants Allen Iverson (AI) has to say: When comparing Super Audio CD (SACD) and standard Compact Disc (CD) for 2-channel (stereo) listening, the technical differences are significant, but the audible benefits often depend more on the quality of the mastering than the format itself.1 Technical Comparison
Key Differences for 2-Channel Audio
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