Are audiophile R2R tapes worth the money if you do not have a professional R2R deck?


I gave myself a vintage Technics RS-1520 R2R tape deck for Christmas (more or less 50 years old, but apparently still in very good shape). I had found a couple of old tapes from the 1950s in my attic, and thought this would be a nice sentimental journey. Then I read about sites that sell master tape copies, on 2 track format and 15 ips speed for $400-and-up. Before I fall into a new rabbit hole, I would like to ask this illustrious forum about their own experience with high-end R2R recordings on their own semi-professional decks, preferably in direct comparison with the corresponding vinyl.

On a tangent: I plan to "hot-rod" the old machine, going directly from the replay head into my own preamp (Supratek Grange) instead of using the internal preamp of the RS-1520. Any experience with such a mod?

 
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If you think you might be prepared to pay hundreds of dollars for a single tape, first thing I would do would be to upgrade the Technics. Probably to Studer. Tube play head preamp could be the next step. And tape decks really like care, there are still people who service them. But, yeah, if you want the very best, tape is the way to go. I don't have such financial resources  so can't go this direction, I just play Nakamichi 682ZX cassette deck when not critical listening. I like tape a lot. I even use Panasonic AG-7305 SVHS pro machine to play background music, along with the Nakamichi.

Lots of guys on this forum have said they do not want to, “go down that rabbit hole”

l have even heard the term used adversely to describe anyone who is a collector (of anything). Some people just don’t “get” the collecting “thing” whether it’s books, stamps, memorabilia, art or music.

This is becoming one of those expressions that gets easily multiplied, just like rabbits.

Have any of these fellas ever been down a rabbit hole?

When I worked at a recording studio in the 1980s-1990s we had Technics 1520s in the studios as our semi-pro machines. We had pro machines for all our recording (MCI and Otari, being more affordable than Studer or Ampex). My biggest concern for you would be parts availability. Parts that wear out are the pinch roller, roller guides, and reel clamps. If I recall correctly, those Technics are 3 motor direct drive, so fewer problems with belts and gears inside. Eventually the heads wear enough to require resurfacing.

The biggest issue is tape formulations that turned to goo over time, like the way some plastics get sticky. High output tapes in the ’90s were the worst for this. R-R tape can be fabulous, but expensive. Everything about tapes is crazy expensive due to the very limited market. Tape decks are astronomically priced, I believe ATR Magnetics (might be made by RTM) and EMTEC are the only tape manufacturers left.

You need to know the head format of your machine when buying pre-recorded tapes. Does it have 2-track and 1/4 track heads? Ours had both playback heads but recorded only 1/4 track (that’s why we had them.)

Professionals always store their tapes "tails out" meaning you need to rewind before play, to avoid the pre-echo problems of print through. 

I don't know about reels but Maxell Metal Vertex cassettes that I use can seemingly last forever. Some of them have 500-600 plays on them and they sound as good as new, as far as I can tell, a little noisy when rewinding but I rarely do it, anyway. I also use LAST Factory tape head preservative before each play, and of course the head is always cleaner than in fact it has to be.

Cost of a refurbished Otari or even Studer and Ampex can be about the same as the cost of a high end cartridge, that means low if you've got the funds. As Bill said, cost of master tape dubs is another matter, well, depending on what you buy and how many.

In any case, this tape endeavour is for a very dedicated audiophile, you have to be truly engaged.

All good suggestions above. It's best to refurbish, lubricate, check the shape/alignment of the heads and replace if/as necessary the PS caps. You'll need the 2 EQ setting mentioned  and be sure to properly load the heads if using an outboard tapestage. You might consider having John French redo the head block and put in Flux Magnetic heads for the best sound.

 

Here's a list I just published of the top 75 15-ips tapes currently available.

 

https://www.audionirvana.org/forum/the-audio-vault/all-things-reel-to-reel/195199-end-of-2025-best-of-15-ips-tape-finally