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F0 Fast Roll-off Linear Phase (default)
F1 Slow Roll-off Linear Phase
F2 Apodizing Fast Roll-off Linear Phase
F3 Fast Roll-off Minimum Phase
F4 Slow Roll-off Minimum Phase
F5 Hybrid Fast Roll-off Minimum Phase
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I am interested in hearing this new type of DAC (multi-path).
These labels describe digital reconstruction filters inside a DAC. I’ll explain this in plain language first, then get a bit technical. Big picture (what these filters change)Digital filters mainly affect:
None of these change bass, volume, or bit depth. Two key axes to understand first1️⃣ Linear Phase vs Minimum PhaseLinear Phase
Minimum Phase
2️⃣ Fast Roll-off vs Slow Roll-offFast Roll-off
Slow Roll-off
Now let’s explain each mode. F0 — Fast Roll-off Linear Phase (default)What it does
Sound character
Why it’s default
Use if you want
F1 — Slow Roll-off Linear PhaseWhat changes
Sound character
Use if
F2 — Apodizing Fast Roll-off Linear PhaseKey idea: “cleaning upstream damage” What apodizing means
What it does
Sound character
Use if
F3 — Fast Roll-off Minimum PhaseMajor change
What you gain
What you lose
Sound character
Use if
F4 — Slow Roll-off Minimum PhaseMost relaxed filter What it does
Sound character
Trade-off
Use if
F5 — Hybrid Fast Roll-off Minimum PhaseBest of both worlds attempt What “hybrid” means
Sound character
Use if
Quick comparison table
Practical advice (important)You will not hear massive differences. Common preferences
If you want one safe recommendation:
Final takeawayThese filters are about how transients behave, not tone control.
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Based on the post I made above I wanted to try the F5 filter.This filter seemed like a nice sounding filter a bit rounder in sound compared to the default F0 filter I have always used. I tried this for 2 days and over 20 hours (I work a lot). I was getting some ear fatigue on the first day. Maybe I was tired. Today, after a nice sleep back at it. First with my Yamaha NS5000 speakers. A little fatiguing, maybe I am listening to too much music. I moved to my office and on the Magnepan Mini same thing with the F5 filter. Now I am worried my ears a getting way too much music. I remembered that I had changed the filter, so I switched it back to F0 using the remote. Boom, an immediate lessening of the pressure on my ears. Now back to music nirvana. Never too much music.
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@yyzsantabarbara a friend told me about this DAC. Interesting engineering technique to use two DACS and combine. For sure can achieve very low noise and high dynamic range. The filter options remind me of HQ Player. Have you picked one overall setting or do you prefer a range? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
@dpac996 I do not think it is 2 DACs it is 2 signal paths that are combined. The analogy the company uses is digital photography were dark and bright sections of say a night photo is sometimes done by taking multiple shots optimized for both dark and bright areas. These photos are then combined to produce a clear image where the bright are not too bright and the dark is cleanly visible. They plan on using this technique for various other studio instruments such as microphones and other things I have no clue about. The technique is called HDR-A and the D-1 uses something they call multi-path. Last night I ended up working till 4AM and I was listening to my RAAL SR1a and the Schiit Mjolnir v3 amp until 2:30AM. This was after I had complained about the fatigue in my ear in the post above and then changed the top-level filter to F0 (default). No issues even so late at night and I was laughing at how good this was. I would have been more productive if I had turned the music off. Yesterday, I also sold my $7000 MRSP RAAL VM-1a tube headphone amp. It was the very best way to listen to the RAAL SR1a earphones. My friend Danny sold me this amp 2x in the past and he was involved in the design. However, my used $800 Schiit Mjolnir v3 amp and the D-1 via XLR was as good and I dare I say maybe better than the VM-1a. Just crazy how good this DAC is and how much stuff I have sold because of it. I have sold $14.1k worth of gear in the last 3 weeks and have huge improvements in sound in 3 systems. I have another $5k of gear to be sold. I look at this $12k cost of the D-1 as free money. With regards to filters I will be staying with the F0 filter that is similar to many DACs that have these 5 filters. However, on every other DAC I could not hear these filters. On the D-1 I physically felt 2 of the filters. I only tested 2. The other filter is the 2nd Order Harmonic Distortion filter. This filter is different from the F0-F5 ones. The HD filters are easy to hear. On my Yamaha NS5000 system I do not use a filter. On the Magnepan Mini I was using setting B at level 2, but I will eventually remove it as the hours increase on the DAC. On my RAAL SR1a, a bright phone, I use level 4. I need to talk to the designer about these filters to understand the sonic signature of each. There are 50 permutations, and I have no time to experiment with all of them. I will meet the designer in person in 2-weeks at the Denver headphone meetup. Does it come across in my posts how much I LOVE LOVE this DAC. it is easily the best piece of audio gear I have ever had in my system. Not the most expensive but the best by several orders of magnitude.
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