We Vinyl Ultrasonic or Vacuum Cleaner?


I have been working at rebuilding my Windham Hill collection. Many times I can find sealed copies versus used. My preference is for sealed if the price is sane. 
 

The question is with new copies, is there any advantage of running them through a CleanerVinyl 132kHz ultrasonic tank versus my OkkiNokki vacuum cleaner? 
 

Any thoughts on the subject are appreciated.

neonknight

@lewm 

"And I’ve done some molecular biology too."

And What, no molecular chemistry?

@dmk_calgary 

"BTW, check the bottom of your water tank after you have cleaned 10-20 of your new, sealed records."

Hmm, 10 - 20 huh? I can do half a dozen dirty used records from one of my B&Ms and all I see at the bottom of the Spin Clean is a few swarf particles, a little of the aforementioned paper chaff from the decaying inner sleeves and the occasional body hair that was airborne long enough to be captured by the vinyl's electrical attraction at one time or another.enlightened

 

 

I posted a response to the OP’s query when he raised the same on the SH forum, but since this discussion has taken a different turn, I’ll add my thoughts. We have very hard water where I live--high minerality--and using at least distilled water for a rinse step makes sense to me. (I have Reagent Grade I here as well, and understand that as soon as the 5 gallon carboy is opened, it is no longer pure--that labs which rely on it, make it on an as needed basis). 

I used to use Dawn as a finish stripper when detailing exotic cars. It did a good job in removing car wax, but was itself not easy to remove. I suppose it depends on the concentration used. I’ve largely depended on AIVS #15, which mandates a rinse, for LPs. 

I combine methods-- I use a Monks Omni, which is a great point nozzle vacuum, similar to the Loricraft, and the KL ultrasonic (pre-Chad, with integrated tank). If I don’t preclean a new record and go straight into the ultrasonic, I can find some dark gray powder like substance in the bath reservoir of the KL, which I wipe out with some non-shedding, non-impregnated lab wipes. Typically, I manually clean any challenged record (I buy mostly older pressings), do a vacuum and rinse/vacuum on the Monks, then into the KL. To get that last iota, I can pull the record from the KL after the wash cycle (though KL warns about damage to the machine from dripping water into its electronics), and rather than forced air drying, vacuum dry the "wet" record on the Monks, using two mats to avoid wet platter. This does a better job in my experience than forced air drying. The goal, for me, is to remove as much residue of the cleaning agent/contaminant and the vacuum dry rather than forced air dry gives me another shot at that. I think most dishwashing detergents have color, fragrance and other stuff that is unnecessary to record cleaning, and as mentioned, is harder to remove from a flat surface (car body) than the made for LP solutions (grooved surface); for car detailing, I use water under pressure, which you can do with records too, as long as you rinse in something without the minerality. (For the vehicle detailing, I have a Vevor D/I car wash system with two resin tanks--and a TDS meter-- it does a good job at relatively low cost). As an object lesson, a painted car surface with high mineral content water will show spotting--a build up of the solids in the water. I don't want that on my records. 

PS: With respect to older copies I buy, I think a lot of the contamination is previous questionable cleanings with whatever residue is left on the record by previous owners/dealers in an effort to make the record look more salable. 

faustuss, The term "molecular biology" was coined, I think, in the 50s or certainly in the 60s to describe biology that could be studied once the structure and function of DNA and various RNAs were understood at least on a basic level.  This permitted investigation of biology at the molecular level.  So far as I know, all chemistry is "molecular" if not atomic. Generating or sequencing DNA or RNA in a lab are examples of molecular biology. To make DNA, you need certain purified cellular or bacterial enzymes plus nucleotides, the structural units of DNA, among a few other ingredients, which these days you can buy from a catalog.

Ordered a Huminguru Nova cleaner from Amazon yesterday afternoon. They had a $80 coupon on it.

I also had never owned an Amazon credit card. During the purchasing process I had an offer for $250 gift certificate from them if I took a card. I said what the heck, I am planning on closing my Capitol One travel card this year anyways. So I signed up, was approved, and got another $250 off my purchase. So out the door a total of $580. I decided it was best if I threw a 3 year extended warranty on it, so an out the door price of $669.

The other positive aspect is that I have easy return privileges if I do not believe it works as well as expected. If not, the last option is to save for a Degritter. But I guess we will see how it works out, the unit delivers tomorrow.