Is ASR for real, or is it only for those sub $1k or even sub $2K?
I did some browsing on the forum and it seems like most don't own very expensive gears. Most of them own mostly sub 1K or 2K gears.
I recently ask about feedback on the Polk R700 but after about a month with no responds. I did a search "ASR Polk R700", with all but one poster which actually owned a pair. Most of them would point you to some measurement and some theoretical discussion but non actually own a pair.
I also looked at a few posts on budget speakers such as the Kef Q7 or Polk R600, but I didn't see any actual owners responding.
I don't mean to knock on them but ASR seems like a lot of hype but very little substance.
We could well heed the words of Byrne and Callaghan. ”Complexity theory can, however, take us beyond paradigmatic difference in a way that allows previously warring practitioners of quantitative and qualitative methods to find reconciliation, assuming their place as contributing to understanding a world that cannot be reduced to its constituent elements.” |
Acoustics already is a very complex field rooted in objective measures about perceptions and their physical external modifications parameters, it is also rooted with psycho-acoustics in subjective perceptions for themselves taken seriously as a field of study in itself (speech,music,). The division between subjectivist and objectivist (ASR) is ridiculous but the more ridiculous is the one cult who by partial educated ignorance claim to eliminate hearing subjectivity from the acoustics equation instead of training it and who use the Fourier tools whose limits of application in psycho-acoustics context they dont understand . (Milind Kunchur points and Van Maanen points ) |
You are right because you think about some applied acoustics for room or great Hall ... When i spoke about acoustics what interested me is hearing theory not just applied material acoustic but psycho-acoustics theory and application for speech,sound and music.. This is complex because multi-disciplinary and a mystery till today ...
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@mahgister I think we’re on the same page here. My argument is that there is a complex interaction between music, gear and listener in an environment. Measurement of a single component may be helpful in that it specifies a necessary condition for success. However, it is very far from a sufficient condition that can reliably predict outcomes for the whole complex system. |
