Class D ICEpower 1200as2 vs. Purifi 1ET7040SA amplifiers


Greetings,

Has anyone compared the ICEpower 1200as2 vs. Purifi 1ET7040SA amplifier in their hifi setup?  Legacy Audio uses the ICEpower module in their i-V2 Ultra and Doug Schroeder did a nice review on it.  I first read about the i-V2 Ultra in Doug's review on the Pure Audio Project Trio15/Coax10 review.  I just ordered these speakers, so I am interested in this amp.  I researched a myriad of class D amps and I've narrowed down my interest to the following; GaNFet (AGD Audion), Purifi (Apollon w/Sparkos opamp), MOSFET (Bel Canto REF601M) and ICEPower (Legacy Audio I-V2 Ultra). 

 

I know ICEpower modules are older class D technology, but if they are equal or outperform the latest offerings, that's all that matters to me.  Plus, I understand they are reliable as they have been around for a long time. 

 

I owned PS Audio's M700's and S300 amps which use ICEPower modules and they sounded really good, but I sold them several years ago to explore the world of tubes.  I'm back to solid state now and interested in the latest class D offerings.

 

Any impressions/experience with the icepower 1200as2 vs. Purifi 1ET7040SA amplifiers are welcomed.  I've already read good reviews on both of them, so a comparison between the two would be most helpful.  In addition, let me know if you have compared any of the class D amps in my list in the first paragraph.  I understand I need to hear them for myself, but I still appreciate your opinions!

 

Thanks in advance

dbt

Just want to offer my experience with Icepower 1200AS2. I am listening to it without a case. The noise level is so low that I need to be within 6" of the board to hear the faint buzz. No "hum" by the way.

Purifi 1ET7040SA: 200W @ 8ohm | 400W @ 4ohm | 500W @ 2ohm

ICEpower 1200as2: 620W @ 8ohm | 700W @ 4ohm

For the same money, ICEpower offers much higher wattage, but its current delivery into lower impedances is weak. You are better off with the 1ET7040SA for its ability to deliver consistently high sustained current.

For HT, I prefer the Legacy i-V8 (IceEdge) over the NAD M28 (Eigentakt) due to cleaner midrange and upper frequencies which offer a more natural sound. The Legacy is less electronic sounding than the NAD.

I think it is pretty well settled by now that saying "all class D amps sound the same" is about as valid as saying "all class A amps sound the same" or "all tube amps sound the same".

The part that makes it just a little more tricky is the fact that some amp makers do in fact take the premade modules from whichever provider (B&O, Hypex, etc) and throw them in a fancy case with zero unique features. In a situation where two brands actually do use identical guts, like say the same exact turnkey Hypex modules, with no changes or add-ons at all, then they WILL sound identical. This is the equivalent of two class A amplifiers using the exact same internal designs, part for part. Which of course would never happen so the analogy falls apart.

Many or most of the better class D amp designers do things to make their creations unique. Often it involves a custom input buffer with upgraded opamps or discrete designs. Some designers do their own power supply, some integrate a tube output stage, and some make an entirely different class D circuit altogether instead of going with an existing module. All of these methods give a unique result.

All this to say you really end up back at square one just like with any other type of amps. Which means you have to try and get them into your own system to demo on your own terms. If you are trying anything other than the most basic, plug and play designs based on identical modules, you'll get very different results and hopefully end up choosing one which stands out as being the best fit. Anecdotally I would say the ICEpower models are still worth checking out even if they aren't the cutting edge these days. They can still sound great to my ears.