Striking a balance between musicality and resolution


As my years and experience in this hobby continue to grow I notice a divergence between those seeking extreme resolution and detail from their music reproduction systems and those in search of maximum musicality.

In theory, high-end audio systems should provide more than garden variety stereo systems. In my view that means more detail and information should be heard from a high-end music reproduction system than one hears from ordinary HiFi stereo systems set ups. BUT is there such thing as too much resolution and detail in a stereo system’s sound presentation?

Some people feel that a less detailed presentation that is easier for your brain to process has better flow and provides more enjoyable listening.

So there is the dichotomy. Should one pay more to hear less? Can a frequency response performance that is curtailed at both frequency extremes be desired and praised?

Those that seek a “more musical” presentation usually point to their belief that that is how they hear live un-amplified acoustic music in the real world. In nature, high frequencies attenuate and decay with distance from the source and sound waves get absorbed, diffracted, reflected, and diffused by the environmental factors and landscapes; so they are not wrong in stating that in the real world the sound of music is less detailed and extended. The issue is that when we listen to our music reproduction systems at home we are not listening to live un-amplified music in a concert venue, but rather professionally produced audio recordings typically recorded with close-microphones techniques.

So the question is, do we want our systems to reproduce the sound on the commercial audio recordings accurately or does one want hear the sound the way one thinks that it should sound?

Lucky for me, I have enough systems at home that I have been able to design, set up, and tune them for different targeted resultant sound, sound presentation, and sound qualities. For instance, my OKTAN6 ultimate horn system is a dissecting microscope, my Pinnacle horn system aims at extreme musicality, and my WAAR reference system is a chameleon, which can be adjusted to sound exactly how you want it to sound in real-time.

My “test-bed” system takes on the sound character and sound qualities of the components in use and it is excellent for evaluating what new components have to offer or bring to the table in terms of sound qualities. But with the Acapella TW-1S ION plasma super-tweeters extending the high frequencies, the TBI Emperor subwoofers extending the low frequencies, and the highly detailed & nuanced Digital Audio Denmark AX24 DSD dac streaming HQPLAYER as the source, the “Test Bed” system is a highly resolving system.

As with everything else in life, is there a happy medium or compromise that gives you the best of those worlds? I believe that there is and that great music reproduction systems can be tuned to strike a balance between musicality and resolution. If one listens to the evolution of my OKTAN6 ultimate horn system for instance you can hear that the fine tuning is driving the sound in that direction.

So during last night’s listening session I adjusted the sound of my “Test Bed” system to a more musical sound presentation. The “Test Bed” system is always in flux so it allows me to experiment, explore, tweak, tune, and have fun with it.

Here is an audio recording from last night’s listening session that captures the revised sound presentation and conveys the sound qualities that exemplify a more organic sound versus a more delineated & resolved sound presentation:
 

The Way It Goes

 

carlos269

This threshold is more related to basic knowledge and experiments than to money purchase ...

It takes a lot of understanding before i reach it with my components...

But it is the same  work for costlier component...As you know yourself ...

Your level is probably higher than just "minimal", if i comare my system with yours, but any acoustical levels of satisfaction  even the maximal one imply the same acoustics factors and concepts relative  balance ratio,  only with better designed gear  in your case  then costlier one....

But when we hear a relative and minimal  balance between all factors, minimal or maximal, we forget the gear and we listen music focusing on the recordings differences and the beauty of music...

All it takes is a minimal threshold...

 

@mahgister

+1

I think most people have a "the minimal acoustical satisfaction threshold"... it is dependent on their financial situation and degree of obsession (the % of your financial resources you are willing to commit and % of time you are willing to research and tweak).

The idea is to tame the crossovers for the room without loosing the life of the cut.

This is an SACD, as always on an Oppo-95 through a Yamaha RX-Z9 Receiver in "Pure Direct" through the pair of my Merman speakers. There is no eq or room correction, either electronic or physical used. The recording was made on a Nikon D750 DSLR in the approximate sweet spot. Here the crossover contours are set to their "flattest" setting rather than more of a vocal presentation. I was recording that "version" when the camera battery went dead.

I like some "weight" to my music.

https://youtu.be/BZXtV_056Jw

I've really been enjoying this thread. I'd like to toss in a thought for consideration.

I've been present in person for a musician's search for a new instrument. It's not really that different than auditioning new speakers for a system at home, in some respects. In my wife's case it took over 18 months, multiple trips to the big cities, and a lot of seat time before picking out the piano that's been in our house for the last ten years. She was searching for that balance of tone, dynamics, and bloom that spoke to her. There's another story of how many violas a friend of the family played before she found the one that she kept as her personal instrument. I'm sure that many of you know someone with a collection of guitars.

We can get wrapped up in the defense of our choices and the precise reasoning for the equipment that we build into a system. There's so much of music that is a personal choice of the artist in the making of the tunes, be it in the choice of the instrument or in the phrasing of the presentation, that it seems unnecessarily strict to insist upon the existence of a singular correct version.

I find myself listening to the quality of a recording very often. But I'm learning that it is also essential to listen through to the performance and the musicians as the truly valuable part of the music. Audiophiles may like to report the sound of the recording hall, and the row within the hall, but musicians seem to be listening a bit more to the music itself.

First, I have noted this is a really hot topic....lots of comments and no I have not read them all. But I will...I believe there is a third factor that reflects the coloration of the sound signature not being addressed here and that is the tonal balance. I think this is a crucial point in our understanding of whether its ’musical’ or highly resolving. For example, ’tubey’ sound is said by some to be more musical and but less revealing than what is achieved by solid state amps. Tubes are mostly more distortion prone than good solid state especially the even harmonics in push-pull amplifiers and I can't make myself sign on for that.  But its also about the balance across the bandwidth of the amplifier. Some people like more bass emphasis others like more treble others are hooked on midrange clarity...it seems there is a secret sauce that speaks to our individual preferences. For me, I like the warmer sound signature of a ’Harmon’ curve with more bass and downward sloping treble, but certainly not to excess. Everyone draws that line in the sand in a different place and I offer no judgement against those whose opinions or choices are different from mine. But I want to hear the ring of the cymbals, the overtones of violins, harps, pianos, those are so much of the character of the instruments if heard live. I want speakers that largely are voiced towards accuracy and capable of creating a convincing illusion I am hearing a performance live. In practice of course this does not happen nearly often enough, but when it does it is effing magic. So I seek high resolution, low distortion with nearly flat response across the audio band. Then I take a dose of reality medicine when I listen to a recording and accept the fact in many cases, the recording is just crap but not because of the musicians. So I listen and enjoy anyway knowing what the problem is. A non-resolving system makes everything, including the good recordings sound mediocre. I will accept the bad recordings as part of the journey and experience in order to savor the good ones. I also require good full range bass extension. today's tech offers speakers that are essentially flat to 20 hz and up to where Dog's hearing is active...I expect the amplifier to do everything the speaker can do and quite a bit beyond. That requires good design...and way too many amplifiers lauded to be good are just inferior. There I pointed at the elephant in the room. 

@livinon2wheels yes tone is also certainly a big element of the equation that adds up to musicality and enjoyment. Here is an audio recording from this past weekend’s listening session that conveys guitar tone for instance:

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