Striking a balance between musicality and resolution


As my years and experience in this hobby continue to grow I notice a divergence between those seeking extreme resolution and detail from their music reproduction systems and those in search of maximum musicality.

In theory, high-end audio systems should provide more than garden variety stereo systems. In my view that means more detail and information should be heard from a high-end music reproduction system than one hears from ordinary HiFi stereo systems set ups. BUT is there such thing as too much resolution and detail in a stereo system’s sound presentation?

Some people feel that a less detailed presentation that is easier for your brain to process has better flow and provides more enjoyable listening.

So there is the dichotomy. Should one pay more to hear less? Can a frequency response performance that is curtailed at both frequency extremes be desired and praised?

Those that seek a “more musical” presentation usually point to their belief that that is how they hear live un-amplified acoustic music in the real world. In nature, high frequencies attenuate and decay with distance from the source and sound waves get absorbed, diffracted, reflected, and diffused by the environmental factors and landscapes; so they are not wrong in stating that in the real world the sound of music is less detailed and extended. The issue is that when we listen to our music reproduction systems at home we are not listening to live un-amplified music in a concert venue, but rather professionally produced audio recordings typically recorded with close-microphones techniques.

So the question is, do we want our systems to reproduce the sound on the commercial audio recordings accurately or does one want hear the sound the way one thinks that it should sound?

Lucky for me, I have enough systems at home that I have been able to design, set up, and tune them for different targeted resultant sound, sound presentation, and sound qualities. For instance, my OKTAN6 ultimate horn system is a dissecting microscope, my Pinnacle horn system aims at extreme musicality, and my WAAR reference system is a chameleon, which can be adjusted to sound exactly how you want it to sound in real-time.

My “test-bed” system takes on the sound character and sound qualities of the components in use and it is excellent for evaluating what new components have to offer or bring to the table in terms of sound qualities. But with the Acapella TW-1S ION plasma super-tweeters extending the high frequencies, the TBI Emperor subwoofers extending the low frequencies, and the highly detailed & nuanced Digital Audio Denmark AX24 DSD dac streaming HQPLAYER as the source, the “Test Bed” system is a highly resolving system.

As with everything else in life, is there a happy medium or compromise that gives you the best of those worlds? I believe that there is and that great music reproduction systems can be tuned to strike a balance between musicality and resolution. If one listens to the evolution of my OKTAN6 ultimate horn system for instance you can hear that the fine tuning is driving the sound in that direction.

So during last night’s listening session I adjusted the sound of my “Test Bed” system to a more musical sound presentation. The “Test Bed” system is always in flux so it allows me to experiment, explore, tweak, tune, and have fun with it.

Here is an audio recording from last night’s listening session that captures the revised sound presentation and conveys the sound qualities that exemplify a more organic sound versus a more delineated & resolved sound presentation:
 

The Way It Goes

 

carlos269

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R.

Whaachu doo?

Yu are rigth. I was in that forum a few months in 2 different times and both times I just banned from the forum.

Meh,,, stale, boring stuff...

" Some of those folks on WBF have truly elite systems, 

 

@carlos269 you missed the point.  I am saying I hear differences in several of your (34!) systems via YouTube.  I just don’t think 1) I can tell much more than that about them from YouTube recordings, and 2) as source material and delivery format, your YouTube recordings of your system don’t sound as good to me when played through my system compared with the same original material played from my sources through my system.  I am going to bet nearly everyone on this forum would experience the same thing, and this should surprise no one, including you.  This is not a criticism of your 34 systems, this is a criticism of YouTube as a high fidelity delivery format for detecting subtle differences in playback that are actually meaningful.  Especially since most people are just going to hear them with the speakers in their phones.  It is what it is, don’t try to make it about anything else.  I and probably many others here are sure you have great taste, mad engineering skills, and lovely sounding systems.  Take the win.

kn

@knownothing have you listen to a WAV file of an audio recording before and after it has been uploaded to YouTube? What differences do you hear? What percentage degradation would you estimate is the hit on sound quality?

When making audio recordings of one’s home audio system one does not need to use YouTube as the delivery method. Have you done any record of your home audio systems from the listening chair position? How do those recordings compare to the sound that you hear in the room at the listening chair? Is 24-but/192KHz not enough audio resolution to accurately capture the sound one hears in the room?

From a YouTube knowledge base article:

How to maintain audio quality

  • Start with the best source: Begin the process with the highest quality audio file possible to give the compression process less to degrade.
  • Monitor your audio levels: Track your audio using LUFS (Loudness Units relative to Full Scale) to stay within YouTube’s recommended range, which can reduce how much the platform alters your audio.
  • Consider professional-grade settings: If possible, render your video with professional settings to maintain as much quality as possible during the upload and processing stages.