@dynacohum Agree.
Is ASR for real, or is it only for those sub $1k or even sub $2K?
I did some browsing on the forum and it seems like most don't own very expensive gears. Most of them own mostly sub 1K or 2K gears.
I recently ask about feedback on the Polk R700 but after about a month with no responds. I did a search "ASR Polk R700", with all but one poster which actually owned a pair. Most of them would point you to some measurement and some theoretical discussion but non actually own a pair.
I also looked at a few posts on budget speakers such as the Kef Q7 or Polk R600, but I didn't see any actual owners responding.
I don't mean to knock on them but ASR seems like a lot of hype but very little substance.
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@mahgister Kudos for trying to have a reasonable discussion with @markwd. You always present interesting information. Regarding Kunchur, he freely admits his efforts are a work in progress. His criticism of Amir is spot on. Suggestion by @markwd to engage in a discussion of ideas with Amir is one of two things. 1. Complete ignorance of how Amir responds to non-alignment with his views. or 2. @markwd complete alignment with Amir views. I believe 2 is the most likely. Perfect example is the accusation you speak in "word salad". Pot calling the kettle black describes that accusation. Long ago I naively thought Amir would be open to constructive suggestions to bring his testing process more in line with basic test and measurement principles. The ASR minions went on the attack and Amir arrogantly claimed he was doing unerring science. So much for constructive discussion.
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When I was a medical student and resident decades ago I used to attend monthly "Morbidity and Mortality Rounds" presented to the medical staff of the teaching hospital I was training at. Cases were presented about interesting and complex patients who had died during their hospital admission first by the clinical team who cared for the patient on the ward, and then pathology team who had done the post mortem - autopsy, tissue and fluid analysis etc. It was a complex mix of objective and subjective data, clinical decision making with incomplete information, and the cold truths corroborated after death. It generated a lot of spirited debate and was a tremendous learning experience. Some audio reviews take a similar approach such as Stereophile with listening followed by measurement. A couple of years ago I was researching buying a power line conditioner, and came across an extensive review on ASR done by Amir. It showed the insides of the device and a plethora of measurements were presented which culminated in the pronouncement that the device could not possibly do what it claimed to do and so was not recommended. I read through the review again thinking I had missed an important section on how it sounded, but there was none to be found. Seeing how it made your system sound seems like a pretty fundamental component to any review. Measurements alone during an autopsy won't tell you how the patient felt when they were alive! |
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