Second Round of Questions on Speaker Cables

I find the deniers odd. If I thought cars were just transportation and not different... I wouldn't join a sports car forum and tell them they are crazy to think there is a difference. I would go somewhere that interested me. 

But there were many stories of Covid patients yelling at the doctors that there was no such thing as Covid... right before they died. So, I guess not hearing, or denying the basic tenets of high end audio is not much different. 

@jaybe  Best course of action is to ignore. Don’t respond. You can’t fix deficiencies in their hearing. Nobody cares what they have to say. 

@jaybe Agree partially with audphile 1 -- on best course of action.  I disagree that nobody cares what "they" have to say--i am interested in what both sides of this issue (and many others) have to say and you don't have any right telling someone not to post--how many posts they have is irrelevant--so typical of cancel culture to attempt to quash someone's opinion because you don't agree with it.  Obviously this is a hot button topic, has been debated ad nauseum and likely neither side will change the other's opinion but you, or they, might change mine and others willing to listen--remember that it's only your opinion and it's only theirs and both have the right to express it--otherwise the forum isn't one. 

To the deniers - it’s fine to have an opinion and to express it. You might enjoy more civilized discourse if you lessened the mocking narrative.

@ionna22 you seem to rely heavily on certain electrical equations but you might also consider the following:

All wires are antenna - they receive and radiate.

All wires exhibit both inductance and capacitance and these aspects change the nature of how they transmit a signal.

Wire are thought to transmit the signal on the skin of the conductor - geometry and metallurgical aspects are known to affect that transmission.

Though we’re talking about speaker wire here, the same considerations are true for power cords which also introduce braiding to the equation. Wire in your wall is solid copper (or aluminum). Code requires your power cable to be braided for flexibility. Braiding magnifies the potential for skin effects, inductance and capacitance.

I don’t want to suggest that all speaker cables sound radically different. They generally do not. But, there can be substantive differences in their sound, system dependent. It’s also true that some very simple and inexpensive solutions can produce more than acceptable results. But that does not negate the value that some of us ascribe to expensive speaker wire.

So, plenty for the denier to consider and the audiophile to obsess over.

Regards,

I should add that I agree there is a point where it becomes ludicrous. I’ve seen power cords for $100k. Seriously. There’s only so much that can be done at the cable level regardless of whether speaker, power, digital or interconnect. No system needs such an expensive solution but particularly wealthy enthusiasts often need bragging rights. 

But the fulcrum tilting toward ludicrous differs greatly for all of us. It still doesn’t negate that there can be differences, and some substantive, between cables.